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[montyd]

So my brother got his tune from martyo in the mail today for his 94 mustang gt with bolt ons. And I get a text calling the mm out. ( after I got my tune it was a very close race with the mm winning by just a little). So now I'm looking for more power lol. I'm considering throwing my nitrous in but I'm hesitant to for some reason. (Don't wanna loose a motor) I have a stall converter that will be sent out next week to be re done. I'm starting to realize forced induction is all I have left to do to the car. As of now my car has the following:

97 cobra intake cams advanced 8 degrees
Jlt cold air
Kooks long tubes and x pipe
Mo's tune
J mod
Under drives
4:10's
Eaton limited slip dif
180° thermostat
Removed the spare ( to save on weight at the track )
And soon to have a 2800-300 stall convertor


Are there any more things I can do to help get me deep into the 13's? Last year I ran a 1:90 60ft on street tires and have 295 kdw g forces on it now so traction isn't really an issue thanks for the help guys!

[SC Cheesehead]

So my brother got his tune from martyo in the mail today for his 94 mustang gt with bolt ons. And I get a text calling the mm out. ( after I got my tune it was a very close race with the mm winning by just a little). So now I'm looking for more power lol. I'm considering throwing my nitrous in but I'm hesitant to for some reason. (Don't wanna loose a motor) I have a stall converter that will be sent out next week to be re done. I'm starting to realize forced induction is all I have left to do to the car. As of now my car has the following:

97 cobra intake cams advanced 8 degrees
Jlt cold air
Kooks long tubes and x pipe
Mo's tune
J mod
Under drives
4:10's
Eaton limited slip dif
180° thermostat
Removed the spare ( to save on weight at the track )
And soon to have a 2800-300 stall convertor


Are there any more things I can do to help get me deep into the 13's? Last year I ran a 1:90 60ft on street tires and have 295 kdw g forces on it now so traction isn't really an issue thanks for the help guys!


4.30 rear gears maybe?

[sailsmen]

3,500 Stall and a top tuner.

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[MOTOWN]

Get a S/C, you don't want a 3,500 stall on a daily driver, and 4:10s are sufficient.

[sailsmen]

I have had a 3,500 Stall for 130K miles. Best advice Zack ever gave me. It's all in the Tune!

[Blk04MM]

Nitrous 100shot with a GREAT tune since you already have the kit and bye bye mustang

[montyd]

Since I'm sending the converter in they can set the stall anywhere I want. I guess I will either have to load the car up and head to Georgia or see if I can find a trustworthy tuner around me so I can do the stall and spray

[MOTOWN]

Since I'm sending the converter in they can set the stall anywhere I want. I guess I will either have to load the car up and head to Georgia or see if I can find a trustworthy tuner around me so I can do the stall and spray

Nitrous on a stock motor = borrowed time! ever disassembled a cast motor on spray:confused:

[montyd]

Well that's why I haven't run it yet. I've always been Leary about it end especially since these motors are so expensive to work on. I kinda wanted to see just how fast I could go n/a with stock internalls and a stock head just because that's what I have

[Blk04MM]

Nitrous on a stock motor = borrowed time! ever disassembled a cast motor on spray:confused:

Same as a blower but there are many with them.

Nitrous with a GREAT tune has proven to be safe if not used every second of the day.

[MyBlackBeasts]

Since I'm sending the converter in they can set the stall anywhere I want. I guess I will either have to load the car up and head to Georgia or see if I can find a trustworthy tuner around me so I can do the stall and spray

If motor is still stock lower you are committing suicide if you spray it. You'll need curtains for the block!!! :shake:

Forced induction at a safe boost pressure is all you can do unless you redo the rotating assmbley & oil pump to eliminate the 2 weak points of the stock motor - then you can spray away! :burnout:

[Blk04MM]

Well that's why I haven't run it yet. I've always been Leary about it end especially since these motors are so expensive to work on. I kinda wanted to see just how fast I could go n/a with stock internalls and a stock head just because that's what I have

N/A with full bolt ons you'll be lucky to break 300rwhp. Few here have but why spend allllllllllll that money to see 300?

Boost it or spray it and call it a day.
Or
Do neither and build your motor THEN throw power at it.

A S/C with a bad tune and or heavy foot can poof your motor same way nitrous can

[Blk04MM]

If motor is still stock lower you are committing suicide if you spray it. You'll need curtains for the block!!! :shake:

Forced induction at a safe boost pressure is all you can do unless you redo the rotating assmbley & oil pump to eliminate the 2 weak points of the stock motor - then you can spray away! :burnout:

Since when did spray become so deadly for a stock motor? I'm seriously confused. There are members here who spray and they still have their motors in tact

[guspech750]

Since when did spray become so deadly for a stock motor? I'm seriously confused. There are members here who spray and they still have their motors in tact

Contact Lowbuckmm. He had a dyno tune done just for NOS, a 100 shot. His car made 370+ rwhp and 480+ rwtq all on his stock motor. Dyno tuned by Bob Kurgan at the time.


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DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

[Blk04MM]

Contact Lowbuckmm. He had a dyno tune done just for NOS, a 100 shot. His car made 370+ rwhp and 480+ rwtq all on his stock motor. Dyno tuned by Bob Kurgan at the time.


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DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

That's one I've read of and is his motor still in tact?

[guspech750]

That's one I've read of and is his motor still in tact?

Yes, it's still in tack. But he is now adding boost and has since gotten rid of the NOS. I think he ran some low low 12's in the 1/4 mile.


Sent from The White House on taxpayers dimes.

DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

[MOTOWN]

Same as a blower but there are many with them.

Nitrous with a GREAT tune has proven to be safe if not used every second of the day.

No its not, its not even remotely close bud!:shake:

[MOTOWN]

If motor is still stock lower you are committing suicide if you spray it. You'll need curtains for the block!!! :shake:

Forced induction at a safe boost pressure is all you can do unless you redo the rotating assmbley & oil pump to eliminate the 2 weak points of the stock motor - then you can spray away! :burnout:

Agreed!!!!;)

[montyd]

I'm was kinda thinking about finding a 5.4 short block and building it and putting my top end on it this winter. Maybe I'll go that route. I mainly just wondered if there are any more n/a mods to do since the p.o. spent all the money on the stuff I already have. Lol.

[LOWBUCKMM]

If all you want is some fun every now and then spray it. I have had the spray on my car for years. For the first couple years I was at the track every 3-4 weeks spraying it until I ran both bottles dry. That's 4-5 good runs each bottle. As Zach always says its all in the tune. Every one that pm's asking what to do with the spray I always say use a wet kit and get a custom tune. My motor is still a power house without the spray and I can run mid to low 12's with it. For thousands less then people with boost.

But now I'm going a different route with my car and ill keep the spray only because its easy power.

[BUCKWHEAT]

Since I'm sending the converter in they can set the stall anywhere I want. I guess I will either have to load the car up and head to Georgia or see if I can find a trustworthy tuner around me so I can do the stall and spray
Martyo is great, but Lidio is closer...