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03sport007
08-26-2013, 12:14 AM
The time has come to sell my Marauder. My wife likes to say that I have a fear of commitment when it comes to cars. I’ve never owned a car longer then I’ve owned this one. It’s truly been a fun car

I bought it 3 years ago from the 2nd owner with 52,000 miles. He bought it from a dealership that took it in on trade. Its been my DD and I do my best to keep it clean and ding free. The car is not perfect but in above average condition for its age and miles.

In the first year of ownership I did CAI, Zack Tune, Rear Cooling Mod and 4.10 gears and was happy.

I had a friend talk me into going drag racing one night at our local track.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72935

On the way home from that decided I would do an Eaton Swap which turned out to be one of the coolest things I've ever done.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=74802

Unfortunately my transmission didn't like it and replacing that was one of the most frustrating things I've ever done.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76024

A year later I went back to the track for 2nd time.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82263


Those are the only 2 times its been to the track. I drive it to work 14 miles every day. I get 15ish MPG around town. I’ve taken one highway trip after the Eaton Swap and got 21MPG. Its been a Great Car and the only reason I’m selling is because I want the money more then the car. Its that simple.

Engine

The engine has never given me any issues. Never burned any oil between changes(3000 mile mobile one for me). No smoke on cold start. I recently replace the timing chain tensioners and guides and the inside of the motor was very clean.

Compression numbers are

217 218
222 218
220 210
225 218

When I did the tensioners I installed a new Ford Water Pump, Changed the Oil and coolant and installed new Spark plugs.

Transmission

I bought the transmission from Darrin and BC Automotive. It’s a 4R75W in a 4R70W case. It has extra clutches, reworked valve body, HD overdrive bands and the Forced Tail Shaft Lube Mod. It currently has about 15k miles on it and I just changed the fluid. This transmission has performed awesome. It shifts softer then my old one with the J-mod at light throttle and firmer at moderate throttle.

I originally bypassed the stock cooler and ran a 24,000 GVW cooler without a thermostat based on Darrin recommendation. Never saw trans fluid temps above 140 and most of the time they were in the 90-100 range. That always bothered me a little plus I always thought Ford most of known what they where doing when they installed a thermostat in the stock cooler so I installed 180 degree thermostat. Now it runs between 180-185.

There are two negatives. The tail shaft seal leaked from day one. I wasn’t bad and didn’t get worse but would leave a drop on the driveway overnight. Two weeks in preparation for selling I installed a new seal from Ford. It leaks also. Not sure if this is because of the Tail Shaft Lube Mod? Again its just one drop

The second is the OD to 3rd Downshift. In order to install the extra clutches Darrin removed the “Wave Plate” The only negative to this is when the transmission downshifts from OD to 3Rd you can feel it. Its not bad or scary its just noticeable. On must automatics (especially with the J-mod) you can feel the up shifts but as you coast to a stop you can’t feel any of the downshifts. With the “Wave Plate” removed you feel the downshift from OD to 3rd.

Torque Converter

I installed a 11” Triple Disc Circle D Torque Converter with the new transmission. Based on Chris at Circle D’s recommendation I got a slightly lower then stock stall speed. I loved the way it drives.

Rear Differential

I installed new Ford Racing 4.10 gears with all new inner bearings and carbon fiber clutches at around 60K. For my type of driving I actually got slightly better gas mileage.

Eaton Swap

I bought the blower off a member here. Was told it had about 50k on it. I replaced the oil and coupler when I installed it. No issues.

I used a Ford GT fuel Pump with BAP.
39# from a Cobra
90m MAF from a Lighting.
I used the Stock cobra IAT2 sensor and location.
I kept the EGR and it passed Oregon’s emissions testing with no issues.

The Car put down 374RWHP and 384 ft-lbs. Air Fuel ratio is 10.2-1 at WOT at 13 degrees of timing. It starts pulling timing at 100 degrees IAT. Most would call that a very conservative. It runs and drives GREAT!!!

Driveshaft

While the car was down during the Eaton Swap I had the Driveshaft balanced and replaced the U-Joints


Interior

Is in good shape. There is a crack on the trim around the instrument panel. Org floor mats are a little worn. I’ve treated the leather twice a year. No boost gauge but I replaced the factory gauges with an AEM Air fuel and an Aeroforce gauges. The top of the steering wheel has a strange wrinkle thing going on(see pic).


Body

The Paint is in above average condition. No Fading. No Rust. There are some very minor scratches in the rear bumper from my Kids getting stuff out of the trunk. There are three dings/dents that I tried to capture in the pics. All were caused by stray baseballs. There are three good size chips. One on the trunk, one on the right front fender and one on the left rear door. There is what looks like a factory drip mark on the right rear door. There is no evidence that its ever been in a accident. No tape lines and all the paint measures the same thickness throughout the car.

The right front wheel has some significant curb rash. The other 3 look good. The windshield has 2 small chips that have been treated to prevent spreading.

The tires are Nitto Motivo with less the 1000 miles on them. After the tires were installed I had it aligned to CarFixer specs

The Front Brake Pads are new and the rotors were just turned.

I also just completed the O-ring fix on the EATC. A/C was recharged last year and blows cold.


I will help with shipping in anyway that I can and live 30 minutes from the Portland Or airport and will be happy to pick anybody up.

I can also take video or pictures of anything you need.
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03sport007
08-26-2013, 12:16 AM
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This is the Wheel with the Curb Rash

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03sport007
08-26-2013, 12:16 AM
Nice Dent in the left front fender


http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j414/03sport007/026.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/03sport007/media/026.jpg.html)

Bad picture of the chip in the right rear door

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j414/03sport007/030.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/03sport007/media/030.jpg.html)

Factory Paint flaw

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Chip in the right front fender

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j414/03sport007/032.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/03sport007/media/032.jpg.html)

Chip in the right rear ¼ panel by the trunk

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j414/03sport007/033.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/03sport007/media/033.jpg.html)

Windshield Chips

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Strange Wrinkle at the top of the steering wheel

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03sport007
08-26-2013, 12:17 AM
Crack in trim around instruments

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03sport007
08-26-2013, 12:18 AM
Cold Start Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3TDe6jAW0Q


Video of engine running

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNo7ywQ8lxg


Boring Driving around Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe1W20Cc9Z0


Moderate Acceleration (Best I could do one handed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_pszJ2inI

03sport007
08-26-2013, 12:29 AM
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I think I got em all:)

Trevor M
08-26-2013, 01:30 AM
Anyone looking for a Silver, look no more. If i was still on the hunt this car would be mine. Beautiful Car. Has everything. Just could use the Spoiler and SS inserts. Other than that it has all the quick go fast mods. Very Nice car and good luck with sale!!!!

burt ragio
08-26-2013, 04:44 AM
Someone will get one sweet ride.

lji372
08-26-2013, 05:15 AM
Beautiful car:beer:
GLWS

Guittard22
08-26-2013, 07:25 AM
Silver :) I love it glws you will miss her

345HP87SSAC
08-26-2013, 08:12 AM
A well documented vehicle. GLWS. I like.

sflrainmaker01
09-03-2013, 06:47 PM
Wow, I like this car! GLWS! I'm in love with RescuRauder. but it sure would be tempting to buy a sweetheart like this! ;);)

03sport007
09-08-2013, 05:49 PM
Thanks for the positive comments.

I know the chances of me selling to someone from this site are slim. So I'm about to branch into the selling channels and I'd like to get some opinions.

I know its not courteous to comment about someone asking price in their For Sale post but I'd like some feed back.

Is my asking price fair? What do you guys think?

Thanks

MOTOWN
09-08-2013, 06:10 PM
I think $11,900 would move it faster

Guittard22
09-08-2013, 06:10 PM
I am not a pro when it comes to marauders but I do own one and I did look at over 22 marauders before I got mine . With that said I have seen Prices higher than yours and lower than yours . I seen stock owns go for 13k with 100+ miles on them to Rust bucket 50k cars go for around 9.

Give it time someone will find your car to be there dream marauder :)

Dre1842
09-08-2013, 07:23 PM
+1 Agreed!


I am not a pro when it comes to marauders but I do own one and I did look at over 22 marauders before I got mine . With that said I have seen Prices higher than yours and lower than yours . I seen stock owns go for 13k with 100+ miles on them to Rust bucket 50k cars go for around 9.

Give it time someone will find your car to be there dream marauder :)

lji372
09-08-2013, 08:04 PM
I'd hold out for asking price with the low miles asking price shouldn't be a problem. Unless its a forced sale and time is of the essence.

sailsmen
09-09-2013, 05:11 AM
A 10 year old car that has been S/C for $13,500 is a very, very limited market.
Either reach a bigger market, reduce the price or just wait.;)
2 weeks ain't very long for this type of car.

BODYMAN
09-09-2013, 10:35 AM
GLWS. Josh, it is truly beautiful car.

dgi
09-11-2013, 09:50 AM
If only I hadnt bought a DD a couple months back :(

03sport007
10-21-2013, 10:35 PM
I thought I’d post the answers to some of the questions I’ve been getting:

1. Have I every had any problems with the car outside the transmission failure? The alternator has given me a little grief The org alternator I screwed up during the Eaton swap. Evidently I didn’t put it on tight enough and the bolt eventually became loose. The loose pulley did enough damage to the shaft on the alternator that the pulley it itself wouldn’t fit correctly. I purchased a remanufactured alternator on eBay that lasted about a year. The internal winding began to separate on the shaft on that one. Talking to the shop that rebuilt it its kind of a common problem? I learned that the Ford F150 pulley that is used during the Eaton swap is smaller then the org and thus the alternator is turning at some pretty high rpms during high rpm driving.

I found a company Mechman that built alternators for a driving school that used 2001 Cobras. Wasn’t cheap but besides having the wrong regulator its worked good. I ‘ve installed the correct regulator. They pointed out that reversing the direction of the alternator has a negative effect on the cooling the alternator and would adversely effect regulator lifespan.

2. In the three years I’ve owned it the Airbag light has not turned off after a start twice. Its always cycled normally the next time.

3. Something in the current tune delays the engine start by about 2 seconds. You can see what I mean in the cold start video I posted.

4. How bad is the transmission leak? I drove it to work all last week and placed a piece of cardboard under it to measure. In 7 days of driving there were 4 small drops.

5. How do you know the drip on the right rear door is a factory flaw? I’ve used a paint meter and the paint measures universal all the way around the car. There are no paint lines. All vin stickers are in place. When I bought the car and ran a CarFax. No accidents.

Here is what SUCKS in the last week I’ve noticed a noise coming from the motor. Its faint and sounds like its valve-train related. I can only hear sometimes and only at very low RPMs. I had a friend at work drive and he thought it sounded fine. But I can hear it:mad: Car still runs awesome.

I would have felt terrible if someone bought the car and this happened after the fact so in a way this is good.

I took this video sitting in my garage after driving home from work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG0H99voX1M


I really don’t know what to do.

Fix and sell
Sell as-is
Fix and keep
Just keep driving it

What do you guys think?

MM03MOK
10-22-2013, 05:20 AM
Because this has become a discussion, I moved this thread into Community Discussion.

LANDY
10-22-2013, 06:54 AM
The price is right. Some people need to stop pricing other people's property. SMH

lji372
10-22-2013, 07:57 AM
The price is right. Some people need to stop pricing other people's property. SMH

^^^^^^^^^^^agreed. if i didn't already have my share of marauder money pits i would be on this:beer:

Vortech347
10-22-2013, 08:53 AM
Because this has become a discussion, I moved this thread into Community Discussion.

Yeah, cause its totally not a classified at all.....