View Full Version : 20" MARAUDER REPROs
MOTOWN
09-09-2013, 02:41 PM
Ive been shooping around the idea of a 20" Marauder wheel to several wheel manufactuers, and some have been very open to the possibility!:banana:
So at this point the question becomes what the mebership is feeling on this:confused:
As always i am looking to get an actual head count of members who are serious about making this a reality!
The wheels will be 20x9, or 20x10 depending on what is wanted, also a possibility is there to do forged or cast, but i can tell you right now a forged wheel will be very exspensive!
I have included a poll with options, so let me know what yall think. Also the wheels will be chrome.
RR|Suki
09-09-2013, 02:46 PM
The only problem I always have is it would be hard to leave the forged 18s and move to a cast 20 :-/. My car used to have forged 19" Budnik wheels, and two of them bent. Makes me very afraid of a cast 20" on this car. Just my thoughts on the issue.
MOTOWN
09-09-2013, 02:49 PM
The only problem I always have is it would be hard to leave the forged 18s and move to a cast 20 :-/. My car used to have forged 19" Budnik wheels, and two of them bent. Makes me very afraid of a cast 20" on this car. Just my thoughts on the issue.
Thats a very valid point, but i bent one of the factory wheels parking to close to the curb:mad2: so this can happen with any wheel be it forged, or cast.
RR|Suki
09-09-2013, 02:59 PM
Thats a very valid point, but i bent one of the factory wheels parking to close to the curb:mad2: so this can happen with any wheel be it forged, or cast.
oops, but I guess that's my fear, you can jack any wheel and it seems that much easier to damage cast wheels. That said though, what kind of price ranges are we talking for forged? I'd like to vote, but something tells me it would be more than my pocket could chew :lol:
MOTOWN
09-09-2013, 03:04 PM
oops, but I guess that's my fear, you can jack any wheel and it seems that much easier to damage cast wheels. That said though, what kind of price ranges are we talking for forged? I'd like to vote, but something tells me it would be more than my pocket could chew :lol:
You would be correct! the Manufacturing process for a forged wheel is going to be around the 3-4k (a set) range, more than i would be willing to spend, but as one wheel company pointed out any forged wheel worth its weight is going to go at that price point.
boatmangc
09-09-2013, 03:09 PM
You would be correct! the Manufacturing process for a forged wheel is going to be around the 3-4k (a set) range, more than i would be willing to spend, but as one wheel company pointed out any forged wheel worth its weight is going to go at that price point.
True that, let me tell you about the custom Boyds I once had built......
RR|Suki
09-09-2013, 03:38 PM
You would be correct! the Manufacturing process for a forged wheel is going to be around the 3-4k (a set) range, more than i would be willing to spend, but as one wheel company pointed out any forged wheel worth its weight is going to go at that price point.
That's what I figured, the Budniks were $800 each, and that was 8 years ago
MMBLUE
09-09-2013, 04:04 PM
True that, let me tell you about the custom Boyds I once had built......
(Paul Harvey) and now...The rest of the story ;)
What happened :confused:
TAKEDOWN
09-09-2013, 04:48 PM
I'm in... hopefully not TOO expensive!
slickster
09-09-2013, 05:35 PM
Wish it where easy for me to dish 5k on forged and tires
boatmangc
09-09-2013, 05:55 PM
(Paul Harvey) and now...The rest of the story ;)
What happened :confused:
Roger, don't want to hijack, I would certainly entertain forged 20s. I am a big fan of our wheels and would love to go bigger.
But since I kicked the cat..
I had Boyd's build me a set for my beloved Mark VIII. He tried 3 times, $4200. Never could get it right.
I ended up selling the car with a cheap set of tire rack rims because I couldn't bear to see it setting on jack stands any longer (18 months).
I got to drive it like 8 miles back and forth to the tire place mounting and dismounting rims.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/boatmangc/Latest%20Mark%20Pics/IMG_5810_zps0ca0baaf.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/boatmangc/media/Latest%20Mark%20Pics/IMG_5810_zps0ca0baaf.jpg.html)
MOTOWN
09-09-2013, 05:59 PM
Roger, don't want to hijack, I would certainly entertain forged 20s. I am a big fan of our wheels and would love to go bigger.
But since I kicked the cat..
I had Boyd's build me a set for my beloved Mark VIII. He tried 3 times, $4200. Never could get it right.
I ended up selling the car with a cheap set of tire rack rims because I couldn't bear to see it setting on jack stands any longer (18 months).
I got to drive it like 8 miles back and forth to the tire place mounting and dismounting rims.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/boatmangc/Latest%20Mark%20Pics/IMG_5810_zps0ca0baaf.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/boatmangc/media/Latest%20Mark%20Pics/IMG_5810_zps0ca0baaf.jpg.html)
Gary i love those Boyds!:bows: i wanted a set of those soooo bad! i too was wondering what happened as well:confused:
Siege
09-10-2013, 04:58 AM
Best of luck to you since I would love to see this happen.
I had the same idea that I posted here last year but unfortunately all the manufacturers I contacted wanted a solid 1000 wheels sold before doing any work.
Wheelreplicas asks for a $50-$100 deposit per set before placing the order. The wheels are produced in batches of 1000 and they obviously don't want to have money wrapped up in wheels sitting on a shelf.
clintons4
09-13-2013, 07:43 PM
I had a set of one offs on my 67 Caprice wagon by Boyd. I contacted several people asking the same question to no avail. I would be in for a set if I still had my previous job.
I would guess that you would almost need a forged wheel on these pigs. Even more so with a larger wheel with less rubber.
Subscribing....
BeanSS
09-13-2013, 11:39 PM
I've never had any issues with a cast rim cracking bending...my homeboy has 22" cast rims on his 96 Impala for about 7 years now, I've had em on my Caprice, and my other friend has 24" forged Asantis on his donk....as long as they're a quality rim you'll be good...and with that said cast would be fine for me!
bugsyc
10-02-2013, 03:00 PM
Interested.....Let me know If,When,How much.....
MOTOWN
10-02-2013, 03:15 PM
Interested.....Let me know If,When,How much.....
At this point i dont think there is enough interest to go to production.
Micahdogg
10-24-2013, 09:00 AM
Just now saw this, I would totally buy some 20 inch repopped MM rims.
ARodmarauder
10-24-2013, 06:44 PM
This would be interesting I guess depending on price I might be in
JBeezy
10-24-2013, 07:53 PM
Price is key...
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lifespeed
10-24-2013, 08:17 PM
Best of luck to you since I would love to see this happen.
I had the same idea that I posted here last year but unfortunately all the manufacturers I contacted wanted a solid 1000 wheels sold before doing any work.
The cost of tooling for a forged wheel is enormous. I would be surprised if this is possible for the size of a group buy the members here could assemble.
Another possibility is hot-rolled cast where the outer rim is rolled under pressure to impart some of the strength of the forging process.
I agree it would hard to give up our light, relatively strong wheels. It is one of the few distinguishing features of the Marauder.
Invader
10-25-2013, 04:31 AM
Subscribing :popcorn: :popcorn:
Micahdogg
10-25-2013, 07:41 AM
I'm pretty sure the Factory Reproduction stuff that you see for SRT8's and GM vehicles (repopping factory 20's in 22's) is just cheap chinese cast garbage. That's how they can keep the price down.
http://www.factoryreproductions.com/factory/pc/Dodge-Charger-Chrome-c20.htm
IF we had an option similar to these ($300-$500/wheel) I would be interested. These will be a cheaper wheel, they will be heavier, not as strong and won't hold up well - but a 20 inch Marauder wheel would look awesome. IT would be a great alternative for people like me who like the stock style, but want a 20. And most of us garage our cars and pamper them so you could get several years out of them before they start showing their age.
Then we can get group buys on re-chroming!
Micahdogg
10-25-2013, 08:46 AM
BTW, here is a photochop of what 20's could look like. I took the time to keep the brakes the same size so you could see how much smaller they would look.
I also assumed people would still want a slightly larger rear profile tire to keep in the spirit of the original combination. I think it looks insane and would be outrageous with those 4 inch MEGS.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z84/Micahdogg/marauder20_zps41377e4e.jpg
Guittard22
10-25-2013, 09:32 AM
^^^^
Man o man
I am in on this if it happens :)
JBeezy
10-25-2013, 10:52 PM
BTW, here is a photochop of what 20's could look like. I took the time to keep the brakes the same size so you could see how much smaller they would look.
I also assumed people would still want a slightly larger rear profile tire to keep in the spirit of the original combination. I think it looks insane and would be outrageous with those 4 inch MEGS.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z84/Micahdogg/marauder20_zps41377e4e.jpg
That looks awesome! My wife would hate me if she knew my mind was even thinking about this. Uhm Uhm Uhm...
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Limited360
10-26-2013, 08:21 AM
That looks awesome! My wife would hate me if she knew my mind was even thinking about this. Uhm Uhm Uhm...
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Someone photo shop that car with the 20" reps... I wanna see it just barely tucking the tire, cause that is my setup and I would love these 20's!
JBeezy
10-26-2013, 08:48 AM
Someone photo shop that car with the 20" reps... I wanna see it just barely tucking the tire, cause that is my setup and I would love these 20's!
Now that would take me over the top. I'm a sucker for a lowered car already, but you go tucking tires and I'm taken. My old caprice was tucked on 20's with antraxx springs. My mustang had cut BBK lowering springs. My daily driver Honda civic is tucked too. See what I mean?
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Limited360
10-26-2013, 08:56 AM
Now that would take me over the top. I'm a sucker for a lowered car already, but you go tucking tires and I'm taken. My old caprice was tucked on 20's with antraxx springs. My mustang had cut BBK lowering springs. My daily driver Honda civic is tucked too. See what I mean?
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I also am a sucker for tucked tires...
I need camber bolts for the front bad... -2 degrees is best I can get.
JBeezy
10-26-2013, 08:58 AM
I have camber bolts but I've not installed them installed. Had them over 6 mos now
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JBeezy
10-26-2013, 09:05 AM
Don't flame me to bad but this is a good idea of what our cars could look like lowered on 20's. It's a Chevy, but everyone loved this look no matter what their favorite brand was. I got compliments from all
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/impalasscars/capricepic.jpg
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LSCR351
12-11-2013, 11:05 PM
Ive been shooping around the idea of a 20" Marauder wheel to several wheel manufactuers, and some have been very open to the possibility!:banana:
So at this point the question becomes what the mebership is feeling on this:confused:
As always i am looking to get an actual head count of members who are serious about making this a reality!
The wheels will be 20x9, or 20x10 depending on what is wanted, also a possibility is there to do forged or cast, but i can tell you right now a forged wheel will be very exspensive!
I have included a poll with options, so let me know what yall think. Also the wheels will be chrome.
I would LOVE a set of 20" Marauder wheels! Chrome would not be my first choice, I would perfer Polished/powder coat like the factorys. But as long as it is high quality chrome like on DUB's or real Saleen rims it would be OK.
So when can I buy mine in size 20x9?
MOTOWN
12-11-2013, 11:34 PM
I would LOVE a set of 20" Marauder wheels! Chrome would not be my first choice, I would perfer Polished/powder coat like the factorys. But as long as it is high quality chrome like on DUB's or real Saleen rims it would be OK.
So when can I buy mine in size 20x9?
There was never enough interest in this, so it never made it to a production point.
Curless
12-12-2013, 05:56 AM
I know the Impala guys got it done with factory style wheels but DAYUM the price!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:
BeanSS
08-19-2016, 07:59 AM
There was never enough interest in this, so it never made it to a production point.
All bullsh@t aside...maybe we should have hit up the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis boys on this to help get the numbers up? I know the clone thing is a taboo to alot of folks around here but there is more of them than us and not everybody is interested in cloning...some would probably just like the option of having a bigger cool looking wheel.
**dons flame suit** :flamer:
JBeezy
08-19-2016, 09:25 PM
The price is crazy, but do they have to be forged?
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Taemian
03-16-2018, 08:52 PM
BTW, here is a photochop of what 20's could look like. I took the time to keep the brakes the same size so you could see how much smaller they would look.
I also assumed people would still want a slightly larger rear profile tire to keep in the spirit of the original combination. I think it looks insane and would be outrageous with those 4 inch MEGS.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z84/Micahdogg/marauder20_zps41377e4e.jpg
Was hoping to see this photo, but it's no longer up?? I'm contemplating lowering my car, but even so, the front wheel arch still seems to swallow up the stock 18s. (I have widened rims out back)
The_Dude
03-16-2018, 09:06 PM
BTW, here is a photochop of what 20's could look like. I took the time to keep the brakes the same size so you could see how much smaller they would look.
I also assumed people would still want a slightly larger rear profile tire to keep in the spirit of the original combination. I think it looks insane and would be outrageous with those 4 inch MEGS.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z84/Micahdogg/marauder20_zps41377e4e.jpg~ori ginalthis might work
1Marauder
03-18-2018, 04:23 AM
Wow, great work! Love the 20's.
Drewstang
03-21-2018, 02:22 AM
We seriously need to pick back up with this.
Taemian
03-25-2018, 09:16 PM
We seriously need to pick back up with this.
Agreed! The front tires don't fill the front to back of the wheel well as they should, so even if you lower them, that dimension doesn't really change.
RamRaud
03-26-2018, 04:51 AM
Would these come with larger godshead center caps? I was not able to use the originals on the 20's I have and think it needs them.
a_d_a_m
03-26-2018, 06:35 AM
Would these come with larger godshead center caps? I was not able to use the originals on the 20's I have and think it needs them. I'd think they won't be able to go much larger due to the lugs getting in the way.
daddyusmaximus
04-19-2018, 09:10 PM
That is a very cool look, and there is a lot bigger selection of tires available is 20" to choose from.
1Marauder
04-19-2018, 09:35 PM
All bullsh@t aside...maybe we should have hit up the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis boys on this to help get the numbers up? I know the clone thing is a taboo to alot of folks around here but there is more of them than us and not everybody is interested in cloning...some would probably just like the option of having a bigger cool looking wheel.
**dons flame suit** :flamer:
Not a flame, The CV guys generally don't want to spend this much on wheels.
I am in for a set or two!
Taemian
04-22-2018, 07:22 PM
Would these come with larger godshead center caps? I was not able to use the originals on the 20's I have and think it needs them.
I like the look of these, they fill up the front to back wheel-arch width much better than the stockers. (Is there a term for that distance??)
Micahdogg
06-19-2018, 08:22 AM
FWIW, I've got a 1989 Thunderbird that came with 15 inch wheels standard, unless you had the SC option with a huge 16X7 wheel. Back then 16's were standard "big" wheels until about 1993 and 1994 when a 17 X 7.5/8 was offered for Mustang GT's and the new 4th gen F-body. For about a decade, the 17 was considered standard upgrade with 18 being considered a "big" wheel. Oddly enough that takes us up to the period of the Marauder, with its 18 inch factory wheels which were considered cool back then.
These days, 20 is the standard "big" wheel. Which I believe is the point of this thread. And if anyone has any reservations about a car designed to not have such a large wheel, I would offer this picture of my 1989 T-bird which has 20 X 9 in front and 20 X 10.5 in back. It really doesn't look that outta place on a car that isn't even as generous as the Panther platform with wheel well size. I have zero doubt that the Marauder would look absolutely sick with 20 inch replicas.
https://i.imgur.com/IRdxZAL.jpg
ZoeChamp316
06-19-2018, 12:08 PM
This is my LSE with 20x10 wheels, The car has lowered Marauder springs and KYB p71 shocks up front. Air suspension in the rear untouched.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa141/zoechamp561/linabelle.jpghttp://s198.photobucket.com/user/zoechamp561/media/linabelle.jpg.html
Gerry24
06-19-2018, 12:35 PM
This is my LSE with 20x10 wheels, The car has lowered Marauder springs and KYB p71 shocks up front. Air suspension in the rear untouched.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa141/zoechamp561/linabelle.jpghttp://s198.photobucket.com/user/zoechamp561/media/linabelle.jpg.html
This Merc drives nice :burnout:
Logan86
10-07-2018, 08:48 PM
I would lay $1000 per wheel for factory rep 20s. That would look awesome.
daddyusmaximus
10-08-2018, 05:07 AM
I like the 18s because I want a little more sidewall, but there isn't as much tire selection out there these days in a 18". A 19 or 20 inch would solve this without looking ridiculous.
1Marauder
10-09-2018, 05:47 AM
I would lay $1000 per wheel for factory rep 20s. That would look awesome.
There has got to be a way to get these made for that kind of $. Chip Foose and those guys all get custom wheels made. Check into it, the first set would be expensive, but the 2nd through 40th set wouldn't be.
1Marauder
10-09-2018, 05:48 AM
PS I would buy the 2nd set.
Logan86
10-09-2018, 07:25 AM
This is the kinda stuff that gets me in trouble, I open my tap and then a couple of grand later.....lol.
lifespeed
10-09-2018, 10:30 AM
https://www.outrageousoutgrowns.com/media/photos/marauder/Marauder_IMG_20151206_164004.j pg (https://www.outrageousoutgrowns.com/media/photos/marauder/Marauder_IMG_20151206_164004.j pg)
https://www.outrageousoutgrowns.com/media/photos/marauder_brakes/Marauder_front_brakes_IMG_2015 1206_165436.jpg (https://www.outrageousoutgrowns.com/media/photos/marauder_brakes/Marauder_front_brakes_IMG_2015 1206_165436.jpg)
Mr. Man
10-09-2018, 10:40 AM
I only have a 23" monitor dude^^^^^ resize please.
lifespeed
10-09-2018, 10:44 AM
I only have a 23" monitor dude^^^^^ resize please.
This forum doesn't seem to accept BBCODE resize syntax unfortunately. Not going to turn it into a web design project.
NXSBOB
10-09-2018, 12:56 PM
Like this?
Chi Stallion
10-09-2018, 02:24 PM
Why not go directly through Alcoa the company that made the MM wheels ?Steve did say they were charging an arm and a leg......
Logan86
10-09-2018, 02:45 PM
Arconic is who manufactures Alcoa wheels. They are a huge supplier in the OEM world. I'd be shocked if they would do one offs but who knows.
Lowndex
10-09-2018, 04:38 PM
Lifespeed,
When was the picture above taken? I ask because your car has no engine. :)
tobiasg1995
10-10-2018, 03:33 AM
You can always contact Forgeline wheels in Kettering Ohio. Custom made to order, but you're going to pay $1000+ per rim and it is very high quality.
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