Guess my Supercharged rwhp.....

[JBeezy]

Just curious of what rwhp I should expect when I get my car tuned. I have an appointment at Mo's on Friday morning.

Mods:
D1SC Procharger w/3.60 pulley
4.10 gears
Magnaflow mufflers
Stock exhaust




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[fastblackmerc]

Just curious of what rwhp I should expect when I get my car tuned. I have an appointment at Mo's on Friday morning.

Mods:
D1SC Procharger w/3.60 pulley
4.10 gears
Magnaflow mufflers
Stock exhaust




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More than what you have now! :banana: :banana2: :beer:

Good Luck!

[JBeezy]

More than what you have now! :banana: :banana2: :beer:

Good Luck!

Great answer LOL! I knew that was coming


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[ctrlraven]

More than what you have now! :banana: :banana2: :beer:

Good Luck!
And less than DOOM!

[Comin' in Hot]

430hp/390tq to the wheels

[Comin' in Hot]

My guess is with stock internals, I'm not sure what you have

[RubberCtyRauder]

425-460rwhp . I have 411rwhp but no intercooler. Intercooler will add 50ish hp with that size pulley i believe.

[MOTOWN]

Maybe I can make it over to see in living color! 475rwhp

[maineiac]

My quess not enough/never enough!!!!!

[Limited360]

I vote not enough... :)

421whp, 375wtq

More importantly guess your 1/4 mile time...

I say 13.0 @ 108

[JBeezy]

My guess is with stock internals, I'm not sure what you have

Yes! All stock.


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[Pat]

A Little south of 400 RWHP.

[STEPS]

between 425 and 450 rwhp

[Limited360]

I still want to see what it does at the track! ;) Don't be a dyno queen!

[RacerX]

Uhhh... stock internals... D1SC w/3.6 pulley... Mo WILL detune that. Maybe 13 degrees on top. 11.3 afr... I would say 489/465...

[JBeezy]

Uhhh... stock internals... D1SC w/3.6 pulley... Mo WILL detune that. Maybe 13 degrees on top. 11.3 afr... I would say 489/465...

Oh noooo!!! What's a safe limit on a stock engine? I'm not searching for the most rwhp, just enough to be fun, but safe. My car has 49k miles. I don't want to ruin the engine.


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[Limited360]

Uhhh... stock internals... D1SC w/3.6 pulley... Mo WILL detune that. Maybe 13 degrees on top. 11.3 afr... I would say 489/465...

You think it will make that on the stock manifolds?

[RacerX]

Relax, Mo will do it right. That 3.6 pulley on a D1SC is pushing a good amount of boost at the top, so, he will add fuel and pull timing to give you a completely safe tune with high horsepower. Not a prob! :beer:

[JBeezy]

Awesome! I've heard nothing but good things about his shop. Just hope I'm not missing anything that will cause a problem or keep me from getting it tuned.


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[Limited360]

Relax, Mo will do it right. That 3.6 pulley on a D1SC is pushing a good amount of boost at the top, so, he will add fuel and pull timing to give you a completely safe tune with high horsepower. Not a prob! :beer:

What kind of boost pressure would you guess? I know nada about these setups on these cars!

I'm more of a roots guy.

[RacerX]

The boost builds slower than a roots, but, from my recollection, a 3.6 pulley w/D1SC should net about 16psi @ 6300. I could be wrong, but, that's gotta be pretty close with high compression/stock internals.

[Limited360]

The boost builds slower than a roots, but, from my recollection, a 3.6 pulley w/D1SC should net about 16psi @ 6300. I could be wrong, but, that's gotta be pretty close with high compression/stock internals.

I understand difference in boost build up with centri... Hmm 16 psi on stock internals... Seems risky. Tune will be only savior... Keep it rich and under sparked!

[1stMerc]

I forget, what fuel pump did you install and are you running a bap?

[JBeezy]

I'm running the aeromotive stealth 340. Going to install the BAP in the morning since I already have a 4 gauge wire ran to the trunk for my amps


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[1stMerc]

Fuel definately won't be an issue. Mo's will do you right, but i see a built motor in your future to take full advantage of what you got. Them D1SC's move some air.

[JBeezy]

I'm hoping far in the future. Not wanting to purchase an engine any time soon.


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[Limited360]

I'm hoping far in the future. Not wanting to purchase an engine any time soon.


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16psi on that blower is a serious amount of air charge... I'm curious now to see how it all goes down!!!

[JBeezy]

I actually took the 3.3 or whatever the smaller pulley was off the blower as I knew I didn't want to go that route. I'm interested as well


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[1stMerc]

As it goes MO"S KNOWS SPEED. D!SC baby woohoo!!!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61527&highlight=world%27s+fastest

Found another angle, with a cameo of guess who?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsIyDwOM7E

[Blackmobile]

9 lbs of boost, 426 RWHP / 390 RWTQ

[JBeezy]

As it goes MO"S KNOWS SPEED. D!SC baby woohoo!!!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61527&highlight=world%27s+fastest

Found another angle, with a cameo of guess who?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsIyDwOM7E

Thanks for posting that. That was awesome! I've never seen that. I saw some 11 sec marauders years ago at fun ford weekend in Commerce Ga


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[JBeezy]

Any of you guys in the Ga area have any larger pulleys that you may want to get rid of? With all this discussion there is a possibility that the 3.60 pulley may be too much boost for my stock engine.


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[RacerX]

Any of you guys in the Ga area have any larger pulleys that you may want to get rid of? With all this discussion there is a possibility that the 3.60 pulley may be too much boost for my stock engine.


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Looks like you already found Joe's pulleys for sale. I would talk to Marty and see what he recommends. He's the tuner, talk to him.

[martyo]

Looks like you already found Joe's pulleys for sale. I would talk to Marty and see what he recommends. He's the tuner, talk to him.

We have spoken.

One way or the other, his car will be set up to address his needs and concerns.

[JBeezy]

Looks like you already found Joe's pulleys for sale. I would talk to Marty and see what he recommends. He's the tuner, talk to him.

I have been talking to Marty, and he recommended I have options just in case the 3.60 pulley was too much. If triplethreat can't overnight me the pulleys to Marty's then I'll just have to cancel my appt and wait until I get some larger pulleys. I was reaching out to some ga members simply because they would be easier to get in short notice


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[Comin' in Hot]

You might be able to get them at Summit in McDonough?

[martyo]

You might be able to get them at Summit in McDonough?

If they have one and he orders it today, I will have it at the shop tomorrow by noon.

The benefit of buying Triple Threat's package if pulleys is flexibility.

[JBeezy]

If they have one and he orders it today, I will have it at the shop tomorrow by noon.

The benefit of buying Triple Threat's package if pulleys is flexibility.

What size is the question of the hour?


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[martyo]

What size is the question of the hour?


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Hard to say which is the benefit of having that package of pulleys.

[Pat]

The estimates range from 400 to 475. Throw out the high and low and your left with about 435 HP. Achievable yes, sustainable on the engine you have, edgy.

Stock exhaust is a limiting factor at that level 400+.

You said you wanted fun and safe. Then I would recommend keeping boost around 10 lb and HP down to 420 or less.

Others are very interested in what happens, so please post up, with particulars.

I intend to visit Mo's in the next couple of months, if all goes as planned.

Regards,

[JBeezy]

Well I'm going with or without. Only the dyno knows the truth. I will post back here with the results as soon as it get them. If I leave there and not be able to run it to its full potential then that's fine too. Right now it's just a sitting duck. At least I can drive it after I leave. How hard will be the question.


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[RubberCtyRauder]

Remember too that the Centri needs a little rpm before boost really builds..like 3000 -3500 ish..So driving around town as usual/"normal" and crusing at freeway speeds, the car will act like no changes really. It's not like the second you step on the throttle you have 450 hp..That is usually near 6000 rpm. You can drive it like usual and have the pull whenever you feel like it. This is just what it sort of feels to me with mine, Others may experience something diffferent. :beer:

[JBeezy]

Exactly. I agree. I drove my mustang around for a while like that until I took it in for a tune. Right now it's on a start up tune just to crank the car.


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[Blackened300a]

Generally 10psi is the safe spot for stock internals. Anything higher then that and it's getting risky. I'll say 440rwhp and 400-410tq.

[JoeBoomz]

One option is to tune it to shift at lower RPM's, keeping the boost levels down on the top end.

[martyo]

One option is to tune it to shift at lower RPM's, keeping the boost levels down on the top end.

Plus we will set the limiter at 2,250. :P

[Pat]

^^^^^That will preserve his engine indefinitely.

[hotford]

10,000 hp...................

[jon5212]

A little off topic... but the guys who are going procharged or vortech... are you buying a kit? Or are you putting parts together? Like would a procharger system for an 03 cobra kit work pretty much just have to change some things? Couldn't really find a whole lot for centri superchargers..

[JBeezy]

Reporting in. Jeff said its making too much boost. So far it made 453rwhp. Breaking for lunch


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[Comin' in Hot]

Reporting in. Jeff said its making too much boost. So far it made 453rwhp. Breaking for lunch


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Live updates... So much win!!!!!

[JBeezy]

A video of the next pull will be posted. Mo's shop is awesome. Good and friendly guys.


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[RacerX]

Reporting in. Jeff said its making too much boost. So far it made 453rwhp. Breaking for lunch


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Heh heh, like I said. The 3.6 pulley would be nice on a built block. Now what pulley did he get that with? ;)

[JBeezy]

Probably need the 3.8 or the 4.0 pulley.


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[lji372]

Heh heh, like I said. The 3.6 pulley would be nice on a built block. Now what pulley did he get that with? ;):bows:

you called that one:beer:



























nerd:D :lol:

[JBeezy]

Wait for it......


Wait for it.......





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[lji372]

i have been



give it to me :lol:

[JBeezy]

Bam!! Lol!!

http://youtu.be/6d0FjGhNmBc




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[lji372]

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!:beer:

tq?

[JBeezy]

Thanks! First drive was awesome, even though I was scared to nail it.


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[lji372]

Thanks! First drive was awesome, even though I was scared to nail it.


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nail her, she's waitin on ya :laugh:


you know what your getting when you get home ;)

[JoeBoomz]

462 at 6500rpm!? Haha, I thought you wanted to SAVE the motor!!??

Shift it at 5500 and it will last a long time. It's fun to drive it as the boost kicks in, eh? (Yes that's a Canadian eh, I am entitled)

Congrats on the successful finish of your build project!

If you weren't happy with the extra boost I might suggest we swap head units ;). I would happily put that D1SC on my cobra block, and my V-2 would be nice and gentle on your motor... :p

[1stMerc]

Nice. How does the afr look? How much boost?

[Limited360]

Congrats on the numbers... Boost? Torque?

[JBeezy]

462 at 6500rpm!? Haha, I thought you wanted to SAVE the motor!!??

Shift it at 5500 and it will last a long time. It's fun to drive it as the boost kicks in, eh? (Yes that's a Canadian eh, I am entitled)

Congrats on the successful finish of your build project!

If you weren't happy with the extra boost I might suggest we swap head units ;). I would happily put that D1SC on my cobra block, and my V-2 would be nice and gentle on your motor... :p

Thanks! Well thats just for now. He modified my shift points like you mentioned. No worries, it will never see 6500. I'm going to install a larger pulley and then let them tweak the tune. Honesty it's very satisfying now. I freakin love it. It feels like a new car. I can't say whether I was more happy to be getting my car tuned today or just hanging out at Mo's during the process. Joe I think I'm going to hold on the the D1 for just a little bit longer. I kinda like it.

1stMerc, he said the boost was climbing when he got out of it around 13psi. AFR was around 11.3-11.5. I can't remember right off. Still coming down off this high.

Oh I forgot to mention. He said the pump was performing like it should. The BAP was on 0, and we never touched it or mentioned it for that matter while tuning


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[lji372]

If possible post up dyno sheet :D

[1stMerc]

SWEET!!! nice fat afr, no fuel issue. Larger pulley should put you right where you need to be for longevity and tons of fun.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_megpxz0Law1rmot3ko1_400 .jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Ncj3peFdGss4-M&tbnid=DZOecy-E7alQzM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthenewforty.a reavoices.com%2F2013%2F06%2F09 %2Fi-love-it-when-a-plan-comes-together%2F&ei=lJdYUtyRCKukyAHspIDoCg&psig=AFQjCNHfJaOLabVu8arASYr8m 2sKFEF2dA&ust=1381624084181790)

[guspech750]

That's great!!
Boost will get you L........................ ucky. :)


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[lji372]

That's great!!
Boost will get you L........................ ucky. :)


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DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

:lol:

I don't care what they say about your car joe, your good looking :lovies:

[sflrainmaker01]

Sweet! Nice numbers!

[Gryphonzus]

I am putting 480hp and 427 ft lb of torque on Mo's dyno on my stock block and it is running fine after 6 years. If you do not stomp on it constantly you will probably be fine. Good luck.

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[JBeezy]

Reporting in..... After driving my car some last night and today, I think I'm in love again. Not as if I lost any love for it, it just feels like I have a new car. People looking as I'm riding by because of the snorting of the blow off valve sounding like a jet taking off. They just don't understand.


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[JBeezy]

I am putting 480hp and 427 ft lb of torque on Mo's dyno on my stock block and it is running fine after 6 years. If you do not stomp on it constantly you will probably be fine. Good luck.

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I have probably seen 5 psi tops for 3-5 seconds between last night and this evening. #Gunshy


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[Blackmobile]

Congrats on your new found HP. But I'm curious why you think 462 RWHP is too much for a stock engine. I'm running the same RWHP with my ProCharger setup at 9 lbs of boost on an engine with over 150K miles on it. Been like that for over a year, and yes I stomp on it constantly. :D

[JBeezy]

Well not saying its too much. It's too much total boost. It was climbing towards 16 psi at one time. Need smaller pulley for 10psi. What size is your pulley?


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[Blackmobile]

3.7 on a P-1SC

[lji372]

Some day we'll get to see a dyno sheet. Maybe........ :D

[JBeezy]

3.7 on a P-1SC

Oh ok. I have a 3.6 on a D1. Maybe they will email me a dyno sheet. Didn't think to ask


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[Limited360]

Oh ok. I have a 3.6 on a D1. Maybe they will email me a dyno sheet. Didn't think to ask


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Yeah get that! Is love to see the curves!

[Motorhead350]

I am glad it's working for you. You need a bigger pulley BTW, not a smaller one.

Being that I never wanted to sell the kit and you are enjoying it, I will not be reading anymore of this thread.

Feel free to contact me to say hello, but I do not want to know of how much fun you are having. Seriously.

[Limited360]

I am glad it's working for you. You need a bigger pulley BTW, not a smaller one.

Being that I never wanted to sell the kit and you are enjoying it, I will not be reading anymore of this thread.

Feel free to contact me to say hello, but I do not want to know of how much fun you are having. Seriously.



Wow... you whine worse than a kid that doesn't get a toy when at a toy store...

:bigcry:

I would happy someone was using my parts if I wan't able to handle them myself!

[JBeezy]

Dyno graph as requested

36362


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[Limited360]

Dyno graph as requested

36362


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Thanks for posting up! Always nice to see different charts from different setups!

[JBeezy]

Well I bought the pulleys from triple threat that are listed in the classifieds. Anyone have a good idea of which larger pulley size I need for a good 10 psi. I currently have the 3.6 on the D1.

Edit: here are the pulley sizes
one 4.25"
one 3.85"
one 4.00 w/ one shoulder
one 4.00"
one 3.85" ribbed and vented


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[JoeBoomz]

Well I bought the pulleys from triple threat that are listed in the classifieds. Anyone have a good idea of which larger pulley size I need for a good 10 psi. I currently have the 3.6 on the D1.


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If you're working and tuned I wouldn't touch it. You will be dissatisfied with a drop in power now that you've had it!

[1stMerc]

^^^^Distinct possibility^^^^^

[JBeezy]

If you're working and tuned I wouldn't touch it. You will be dissatisfied with a drop in power now that you've had it!

Been thinking about that too. Only thing is if I decided to run at the track I couldn't run the 1/4 at WOT due to too much boost


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[lji372]

call mo's!

[justbob]

Congrats! Exact same as my RWHP! But minus 90 torque. :P Keep her at a safe 12#'s or so and she'll last forever.


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[JBeezy]

I'm also thinking when I lower the boost he can add some timing to it then that will get some of the punch back that I'll loose by lowering the boost. I've only seen 5 psi and I'm loving that honestly. I don't drive my car that hard anyway, but this is making me love it like never before


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[Marauderjack]

Be VERY CAREFUL in the rain.......a surprise downshift can be VERY interesting and uncomfortable......don't ask me how I know!!!:eek: :shake: :bandit:

[Limited360]

Be VERY CAREFUL in the rain.......a surprise downshift can be VERY interesting and uncomfortable......don't ask me how I know!!!:eek: :shake: :bandit:


The backend stepping out is where all the fun begins :)

[Marauderjack]

NOT when it's WET!!:shake::eek:

Ask Haggis.......

[lji372]

NOT when it's WET!!:shake::eek:

Ask Haggis.......

Oh haggis!!! Do tell......... :popcorn:

[Limited360]

NOT when it's WET!!:shake::eek:

Ask Haggis.......


Actually I would venture to say the wet is more forgiving, less snap when it catches traction...

I like when a car slides some, makes it a bit more fun to drive!

[Marauderjack]

Until it goes AROUND.....NOT FUN!!:shake:

[WPG_Merc]

Congrats, Nice Numbers :burnout: