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jmsa540
10-11-2014, 03:03 PM
Guys, can I see STOCK not aftermarket pics of your car with the moonroof open? If you could include the whole car that'd be nice. Just wondering if I really want a moonroof or not...

88CuttyClassic
10-11-2014, 03:40 PM
Fwiw i insisted on finding one with a moonroof and heated seats... after searching forever i found a 300A i couldnt say no to. I learned its hard to find the "perfect" one 10-11 years after the fact. Mileage, condition and price far outweighed options.

jmsa540
10-11-2014, 03:43 PM
Do you still wish that at times you had the moonroof/heated seats? And is an 04 really that much better than an 03?..

Pat
10-11-2014, 03:45 PM
does this help?
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC05817.JPG (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24131/title/moon-roof/cat/500)http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC05814.JPG

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC05815.JPG
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC05816.JPG
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC05817.JPG

88CuttyClassic
10-11-2014, 03:48 PM
Well i havent driven my car in the winter yet so i cant speak on the heated seats but im ok without the moonroof. I have two T-Top G-bodies when i wanna cruise open air. As for 04's being better. Im glad i have a full spare, a smooth gas door and no traction control with my 03

jmsa540
10-11-2014, 04:04 PM
Nice advice, cutty.

Pat, is that stock?

Pat
10-11-2014, 04:37 PM
Yes sir, right off the show room floor.

cer0413
10-11-2014, 04:37 PM
:coolman::coolman::coolman:

MERCULES
10-11-2014, 05:22 PM
I searched for 2 years to find a 2004 silver birch with moon roof and heated seats.

I purchased from a member on this site and I am very pleased. It was a few months later that I realized just how fortunate I was, I think members who sell on this site are held to a higher standard to be honest and I would recommend buyers purchase from a member.

Comin' in Hot
10-11-2014, 05:27 PM
If I were you I would sit I a marauder with a moonroof, if you are tall, it might affect headroom

jmsa540
10-11-2014, 05:34 PM
I'm 6'0", think that's a problem?

JBeezy
10-11-2014, 05:49 PM
I wanted a moonroof, but glad I found what I have. Moonroofs are cool

lji372
10-11-2014, 06:14 PM
I have both. Honestly prefer the 300a, no moonroof. long console FTW!

fastblackmerc
10-11-2014, 07:41 PM
I'm 6'0", think that's a problem?

You lose 1" of headroom with a moonroof.

svtrichie
10-11-2014, 07:44 PM
I would love one but won't have the hole cut in mine

fastblackmerc
10-11-2014, 07:44 PM
For what's it's worth......

All my cars from now on will have a moonroof

Heated and cooled seats

Leather

champ1173
10-11-2014, 08:06 PM
You lose 1" of headroom with a moonroof.
Huh! I learn something new everyday. It makes sense though. It might be neat to have a full overhead console.

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y459/champ1173/045_zps771322d7.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/champ1173/media/045_zps771322d7.jpg.html)

Seneca
10-11-2014, 08:11 PM
Im 6'2" and I only have a problem when im at the track. Helmet rubs roof, have to really recline. Love my moon roof!

jmsa540
10-11-2014, 08:25 PM
thanks, guys!

MERCULES
10-11-2014, 09:04 PM
Im 6'2" and I only have a problem when im at the track. Helmet rubs roof, have to really recline. Love my moon roof!

Take the money clip out of your back pocket and save the helmet rub :beer:

Bluerauder
10-12-2014, 03:22 AM
Do you still wish that at times you had the moonroof/heated seats? And is an 04 really that much better than an 03?..

My Blue 2003 MM came with heated seats but no moonroof. Since I grew up in a time when heaters, AM only radios, and floormats were options on new cars (air conditioning wasn't even available on many cars), I thought that heated seats were pretty much an unnecessary "luxury" option. However, after the first winter in the MM, I got pretty used to jumping in a car with pre-warmed seats. Once that initial chill is gone, I don't use them much for cruising around.

My Taurus SHO came with heated and cooled seats as well as a moonroof. I must admit that those seats come in very handy in both hot and cold weather. As for the moonroof, I find that I don't fully open it much at all. If it is open, it is usually in the "tilt" open mode just for additional ventilation.

Bigdogjim
10-12-2014, 05:26 AM
I'm 6'0", think that's a problem?

I am 6'6" and have no problem :up:

I know another member that is 6'7" And there is a member on the west coast that is 7'.....all are happy with the car:beer:

Jolly Roger
10-12-2014, 09:14 AM
I actually went out of my way (2 states away) to find an 04 "without" a moon roof.:P

Mr. Man
10-12-2014, 09:17 AM
The short console sucks, no place to put your shades.:cool:

MOTOWN
10-12-2014, 10:57 AM
I couldn't imagine a Marauder without a Moonroof! that's the best option.

1stMerc
10-12-2014, 11:25 AM
After having after market moon/sun roof put in all my previous vehicles, it was just logical to get MM with one already installed.

Heated seats are nice, but i seldom use it since winter brings out jackets/coats that cover my bum.

Loco1234
10-12-2014, 12:34 PM
very few Marauder were on dealerships lots with moon roofs. So this is a rare option on a limited production vehicle.

Bluerauder
10-12-2014, 12:47 PM
So this is a rare option on a limited production vehicle.


This ^^^^^^ is true. I don't know why the Ford Performance Group (FPG) did not give a number and breakout in their 2004 production count since the MMs with moonroofs were clearly identified with the "2MHHM" VIN. Possibly an oversight.

LOWBUCKMM
10-12-2014, 05:54 PM
I searched 3 months for a 04 with a moonroof. Love the roof it was well worth the search.

jmsa540
10-12-2014, 05:58 PM
I'm going on two months...

cat in the hat
10-12-2014, 11:02 PM
The short console sucks, no place to put your shades.:cool:

I like the short console better - for something with no actual purpose, a shorter one seems less dopey ;)

Invective
10-13-2014, 03:15 AM
For what's it's worth......

All my cars from now on will have a moonroof

Heated and cooled seats

Leather


I agree. If I buy a Marauder w/o moonroof I won’t hesitate to have an aftermarket one installed. Had powered moonroofs installed on both my ’98 Mustang GT (up and over) and my 2005 GT (inbuilt); can’t imagine owning another car without one.

Had a flip up type moonroof in my 1988 Ranger but my subsequent 2001 and 2006 ‘suicide door’ Rangers won’t support a moonroof due to roof/ frame construction.

Bluerauder
10-13-2014, 03:48 AM
This ^^^^^^ is true. I don't know why the Ford Performance Group (FPG) did not give a number and breakout in their 2004 production count since the MMs with moonroofs were clearly identified with the "2MHHM" VIN. Possibly an oversight.

Just received word from one of the other members (Hwy73 from a "Marti Report") that there were 1,212 moonroof cars in the 2004 MM production. No further breakdown. That means that about 38% of MMs in 2004 had the "2MHHM" VIN identifier for a moonroof/incomplete vehicle.

So, only about 11% of the total MM production came with moonroofs.

So, only about 11% of the total production came with moonroofs.

If the moonroofs were spread "evenly" across the '04 color & interior combos, here's what the numbers would look like .....

2004 Black MM with Dark Charcoal -- 1,081 produced (408 with moonroof)
2004 Black MM with Light Flint-- 156 produced (59 with moonroof)
2004 Silver MM with Dark Charcoal -- 534 produced (201 with moonroof)
2004 Silver MM with Light Flint -- 463 produced (175 with moonroof)
2004 DTR MM with Dark Charcoal -- 574 produced (216 with moonroof)
2004 DTR MM with Light Flint -- 406 produced (153 with moonroof)

2004 MM -- 3,214 produced (1,212 with moonroof)

Jeronimojc
10-13-2014, 06:03 PM
From an older post http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1393669&postcount=8


One way or another I collected some info from this site (I may also have made some assumptions). Somehow I concluded there are 1,214 MMs with moon-roof as follows:
Silver Birch 336
Red 369
Black 509

When I was searching for a MM this last time, I was specifically looking for a Silver Birch with dark charcoal interior and a moon-roof. My estimate is there were less than 200 made, but we'll probably never know.




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N40GL
10-14-2014, 08:24 AM
FWIW: The moonroof that Ford used on the MM is made by Webasto. The "Solaire" model. So, if you wanted to duplicate the hardware from a 'stock' moonroof-equipped MM, buy that one. (It does not include an overhead console when bought from Webasto.)

fastblackmerc
10-14-2014, 08:27 AM
FWIW: The moonroof that Ford used on the MM is made by Webasto. The "Solaire" model. So, if you wanted to duplicate the hardware from a 'stock' moonroof-equipped MM, buy that one. (It does not include an overhead console when bought from Webasto.)

I've seen aftermarket roofs installed and they hack up the long console, install a plastic plate and add the switches to the plate. Doesn't look anything like the factory install.

MOTOWN
10-14-2014, 12:34 PM
I've seen aftermarket roofs installed and they hack up the long console, install a plastic plate and add the switches to the plate. Doesn't look anything like the factory install.

True , but that's an easy fix just get a short console and your good to go!

screamn
10-14-2014, 12:51 PM
I would love one but won't have the hole cut in mine

Big +1 on this ^^^^....also need to worry about future leaks!!!! :(

Anthony_Lane
10-24-2014, 11:59 AM
So how much

fastblackmerc
10-24-2014, 12:03 PM
Big +1 on this ^^^^....also need to worry about future leaks!!!! :(

I've had moon roofs and sunroofs in a majority of my cars and have never had an issue with leaks. I don't know about aftermarket, but the "factory" installs are good.

stevengerard
10-27-2014, 09:51 AM
Big +1 on this ^^^^....also need to worry about future leaks!!!! :(

For what its worth the original moon-roofs were installed just like an aftermarket one - they shipped them out and a supplier cut the roof. Some newer cars like the Fusion and Taurus have the roofs pre-stamped for a moon roof but if it doesn't come with it you can still order it. For what its worth after 10 years my MM doesn't leak, the factory moon-roof on my Suburban does

DEFYANT
10-28-2014, 07:52 PM
Now this is an option I wish I had! Too damn expensive to justify the mod!

jktipton
10-29-2014, 07:45 AM
If I were you I would sit I a marauder with a moonroof, if you are tall, it might affect headroom

I'm 6'3" and sit with the seat back all the way up and the seat base as low to the floor as it will go. I don't have a problem with headroom in my moon roof-equipped 2004 CVLX Sport. If I really straighten my posture and stretch, my head will touch the ceiling, but in normal driving posture it's no issue at all.

That said, I rarely open it while driving. I like to drive with all 4 windows all the way down when weather allows, and I have noticed that with the moon roof also open at highway speed, the center shoulder belt in the back seat flaps noisily against the leather, which I find annoying.

The moon roof is nice when parked on a hot day though; you can flip it up and it vents heat better than leaving the windows down an inch. Makes a big difference on my black-on-black car with no window tint. Beyond that, I'm sort of indifferent to it. Basically, it's OK to have, but I really wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there.

Shopping for a decade-old car that's optioned just the way you want it is a frustrating exercise. I think you'll be happiest in the long run finding a car that's in the best possible condition for the money you want to spend, regardless of the moon roof situation.

stevengerard
10-29-2014, 09:57 AM
Shopping for a decade-old car that's optioned just the way you want it is a frustrating exercise. I think you'll be happiest in the long run finding a car that's in the best possible condition for the money you want to spend, regardless of the moon roof situation.

Good advice - shopping for a brand new car the way you want it is frustrating enough.

tbone
10-30-2014, 08:31 AM
I have an aftermarket Webasto roof. Love it, although I rarely use it. There was a recall on the glue used to glue the glass to the frame and I got it replaced this spring, 12 years after it was installed. Nice to see Webasto stepping up and standing behind their product after so many years.

MOTOWN
10-30-2014, 08:58 AM
I have an aftermarket Webasto roof. Love it, although I rarely use it. There was a recall on the glue used to glue the glass to the frame and I got it replaced this spring, 12 years after it was installed. Nice to see Webasto stepping up and standing behind their product after so many years.

I had one of their roofs installed in a pick up truck , best quality out there!

Invective
03-28-2018, 05:01 PM
I've seen aftermarket roofs installed and they hack up the long console, install a plastic plate and add the switches to the plate. Doesn't look anything like the factory install.

Would love to see images of this as I’m considering having an aftermarket installation.

Update: My car has the shorty roof console and I found this image. Will ask the installer if they can mount the switch on the bottom face instead of on the back of the housing for the obvious reasons. (image not posting here for some reason - was posted to another thread).

Joe Walsh
03-28-2018, 05:42 PM
I've had multiple cars with sunroofs....
and hardly ever used them.

Too hot & humid, too cold, too rainy, too noisy, sun burning my receding hairline, too much buffeting at higher speeds....

As my Dad would always say:

"Why would you cut a hole in a perfectly good roof!?"

crownvic97
03-28-2018, 05:59 PM
As my Dad would always say:

"Why would you cut a hole in a perfectly good roof!?"

This is pretty much the best summary there is! :D

Taemian
03-29-2018, 07:42 AM
I searched for 2 years to find a 2004 silver birch with moon roof and heated seats.

I purchased from a member on this site and I am very pleased. It was a few months later that I realized just how fortunate I was, I think members who sell on this site are held to a higher standard to be honest and I would recommend buyers purchase from a member.

As a West Coast Canuck, I did the very same search and pulled the trigger on an MM in a Tennessee Ford dealership after almost 3 years of searching. Had 9156 original miles on it. In hindsight, probably paid a bit too much for it, but I'm glad I did. It's made me grin for a long time!