View Full Version : Best SC option
Gccch
12-19-2014, 09:36 AM
Now that the last known (on this forum at least) Trilogy kit has been sold, what is the next best option for my all stock MM? I was looking through the Eaton swap thread, but man 36 pages of comments is a bit much to absorb.
I have this kit available locally, but don't even know enough if it would fit my stock engine. It says it's for a 2v.
What is the best way to get up to speed on SC for the MM?
http://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/4730491847.html
yjmud
12-19-2014, 09:44 AM
start collecting the parts for the eaton swap it should not be that hard to find the parts for the swap lji372 (jerry) makes the brackets top notch quality
What you linked is a 2v setup
ChiTownMaraud3r
12-19-2014, 09:44 AM
Asking this question on these forums is opening a can of worms, everyone has a different opinion on centri vs positive displacement. I would say if you are serious about doing it, it is worth reading all 36 pages of eaton swap goodness to know what you are getting into, and then read all the procharger/vortech etc threads and get a sense of what you may want. Many of us prefer the more stock-looking setup of an eaton or trilogy, and the low-end torque produced where these heavy cars can use it.
That kit you posted, looks like some of the stuff would work, such as the intercooler, supercharger, water pump, heat exchanger... But the injectors, lower intake, timing cover(not needed) would be a waste.
Good Luck.
martyo
12-19-2014, 09:47 AM
Buy an LS9.
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marauderthis
12-19-2014, 10:05 AM
Have you installed one into a MM?
Buy an LS9.
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martyo
12-19-2014, 10:06 AM
Have you installed one into a MM?
No but of someone wants to pony up the $20k or so on the motor and blower alone, we will take a shot at it!
RF Overlord
12-19-2014, 10:33 AM
^^^what ChiTownMaraud3r said^^^
Neither setup is "better"...it all depends on the results you're trying to achieve. Eaton may be better at off the line launches for a heavy car while centrifugal can have better top-end power. A lot depends on boost level and tuning as well.
For the money you're going to spend, I agree that reading all the available info will help you decide which is right for you.
loud2004marquis
12-19-2014, 10:39 AM
I would say if you are serious about doing it, it is worth reading all 36 pages of eaton swap
BIIIIIIIIIIG +1 to that! ^^^Right, There^^^
Gccch
12-19-2014, 10:44 AM
I will of course make it through all those posts.... problem I had first go round is it assumes you have some basic knowledge. I'l invest the time and come back with questions.
Gccch
12-19-2014, 02:08 PM
Asking this question on these forums is opening a can of worms, everyone has a different opinion on centri vs positive displacement. I would say if you are serious about doing it, it is worth reading all 36 pages of eaton swap goodness to know what you are getting into, and then read all the procharger/vortech etc threads and get a sense of what you may want. Many of us prefer the more stock-looking setup of an eaton or trilogy, and the low-end torque produced where these heavy cars can use it.
That kit you posted, looks like some of the stuff would work, such as the intercooler, supercharger, water pump, heat exchanger... But the injectors, lower intake, timing cover(not needed) would be a waste.
Good Luck.
When you say the intercooler, do you mean both of these items:
- Tork Teck inter cooled supercharger kit. $ 2350
- Aluminum inter cooler reservoir $240
Read the eaton swap thread before you ask anymore questions.
martyo
12-19-2014, 02:35 PM
Read the eaton swap thread before you ask anymore questions.
You have a way with words.
RubberCtyRauder
12-19-2014, 02:56 PM
Tork Teck doesn't make stuff that marauders use..Nobody has ever mentioned tork tech stuff here, stick with what is posted here. An eaton swap is going to cost $3500-4000 for parts alone, not including install and dyno tuning and an SCT unit.
justbob
12-19-2014, 03:20 PM
My ProCharger shouldn't have any issue motivating this little sedan off the line! Eatons are cute though! :P
Either way, tomato/tomoto, as long as it's better than stock!
Builder Of Badassery
chief455
12-19-2014, 05:15 PM
Read the eaton swap thread before you ask anymore questions.
You have a way with words.
Blunt isn't just for smoking anymore;)
kariamack
12-19-2014, 05:20 PM
You could just buy mine since its Supercharged already
Merrill
12-19-2014, 05:42 PM
You could trade your car and a little cash for my procharged car.
camelgrundle
12-19-2014, 06:57 PM
Whatever you can find is the best!
boatmangc
12-20-2014, 04:18 AM
Now that the last known (on this forum at least) Trilogy kit has been sold, what is the next best option for my all stock MM? I was looking through the Eaton swap thread, but man 36 pages of comments is a bit much to absorb.
I have this kit available locally, but don't even know enough if it would fit my stock engine. It says it's for a 2v.
What is the best way to get up to speed on SC for the MM?
http://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/4730491847.html
Simple, sell you car, buy mine. Save THOUSANDS$$$
Believe me you will be way ahead on money buying it already done.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95995
Simple, sell you car, buy mine. Save THOUSANDS$$$
Believe me you will be way ahead on money buying it already done.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95995
I've come to terms with this idea. There's no way in :censor:I'm ever going to be able to afford or would be willing to do any major performance mods to my current car. Selling and buying a MM that's already done is the most sensible solution these days. I'm gonna keep this option in mind myself if I don't buy another car this upcoming year.
cer0413
12-22-2014, 06:15 AM
You could trade your car and a little cash for my procharged car.
Wish someone told me this before I bought mines
Gccch
12-22-2014, 07:59 AM
Read the eaton swap thread before you ask anymore questions.
Zack, I get your point, but... and I mean no offense... that thread is not really what I was hoping for. I get to my starting point on page 32 of 35:
Quote:
Originally Posted by pumaj24 View Post
Im alil lost could someone pm to better explain
don't know too much about the Eaton been a mm owner for only 6 months so im kinda new to understating wat it is and wats needed
It's the installation of an OEM Cobra supercharger onto a Marauder. Will add approx 150 hp. Will cost around $4, 500 for the parts.
I mean, all I know at this stage is I need more power and Trilogy (kit with instructions) is no longer available.
I'm spoiled from working on Corvettes where the forum just has so many owners and there is nothing that hasn't been done hundreds of times before. This MM is a mystery. So I read through all the Q&A about which part number pulley, belt, grind this, trim that which with zero knowledge is not all that helpful (at this stage).
I'll get there and don't mind the work, just thought I'd ask for some basic guidance from those that have done this the hard way.
RF Overlord
12-22-2014, 08:22 AM
If you're looking for step-by-step instruction on how to do an Eaton swap (like the kind provided with the Trilogy kit), you're SOL. Each installation is a little different depending on the exact parts used and their source.
The Trilogy installation manual (available here (www.trilogymotorsports.com/products/assets/MercuryMarauderSCManual.pdf)) may give you some idea of what's involved, just remember the bracketry will be different as will the throttle body positioning as the Trilogy Eaton is not identical to the OEM unit from a Cobra or a Terminator.
Gccch
12-22-2014, 08:51 AM
If you're looking for step-by-step instruction on how to do an Eaton swap (like the kind provided with the Trilogy kit), you're SOL. Each installation is a little different depending on the exact parts used and their source.
The Trilogy installation manual (available here (www.trilogymotorsports.com/products/assets/MercuryMarauderSCManual.pdf)) may give you some idea of what's involved, just remember the bracketry will be different as will the throttle body positioning as the Trilogy Eaton is not identical to the OEM unit from a Cobra or a Terminator.
Thank you RF! Very helpful to identify the main components involved. By the way my MM is in storage on the Cape. Maybe in the spring I will be ready to do this.
RF Overlord
12-22-2014, 09:57 AM
No problem...lemme know when yours comes out of hibernation and we can get a coffee or something...
Gccch
12-22-2014, 11:35 AM
No problem...lemme know when yours comes out of hibernation and we can get a coffee or something...
Will do. I will be coming down sometime this winter to make sure the mice are keeping their distance. I surrounded it with traps but they will only get the first three (the blind ones - haha). When I do I will likely take it out for a spin. What town?
Gccch
12-22-2014, 07:02 PM
Simple, sell you car, buy mine. Save THOUSANDS$$$
Believe me you will be way ahead on money buying it already done.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95995
You're right I would have saved some, but mine was a pristine 4500. Mile car in August when I bought it. I think I'll keep it.
Tell me about your paint. Was it repainted or did you do something to the factory's you finish? Mine is unblemished but has polish marks in the clear coat.
License2Bill
12-22-2014, 07:18 PM
Will do. I will be coming down sometime this winter to make sure the mice are keeping their distance. I surrounded it with traps but they will only get the first three (the blind ones - haha). When I do I will likely take it out for a spin. What town?
Get it on jackstands if it isn't already to prevent flat spots on the tires and throw some Bounce dryer sheets on the ground, in the engine bay, anywhere mice are likely to go.
Gathering parts for an Eaton swap can be a lot of fun, especially when you have 2 or 3 packages arriving each week!
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