GT500 5.8 swap

[sparker_1982]

So I been thinking about what upgrades I was gonna do to my 4.6 to reach 500hp but instead have been thinking about just building a 5.8 gt500 engine to swap it with.Would this be possible ?The marauder strikes me as having more than enough roomm to drop one in.I pretty much got the green light from my wife to start building one lol but need to do more research.Any input on this one would be greatly appreciated .I haven't seen anything on the forum about a 5.8 swap and yes I know this is an expensive project.Block alone is anywhere from 5-7K

[MOTOWN]

You have got to be kidding!

[RubberCtyRauder]

I may be wrong but I don't believe the 5.8 will fit. Wiper cowl, steering linkage, hood closure are some of the areas with issues

[RubberCtyRauder]

An eaton swap is far more easier and cheaper to get to 425 Rwhp which is lose to 500 crank hp.

[sparker_1982]

If you can fit into a mustang why cant you fit it into a marauder with modifications and NO I'm not kidding

[sparker_1982]

I'm not looking for cheaper I am fully aware the engine will be worth more than the car itself

[MOTOWN]

If you can fit into a mustang why cant you fit it into a marauder with modifications and NO I'm not kidding

LMAO! this isn't a mustang:shake: , and i would advise you to educate yourself on Marauders , not mustangs!

[sparker_1982]

maybe u might not have the money to do it but that doesnt mean it isnt possible

[sparker_1982]

where theres money theres a way

[MOTOWN]

maybe u might not have the money to do it but that doesnt mean it isnt possible

LOL , I'm sorry do we know each other ? 8 post wonder! if you have all the answers , money , and knowledge why ask questions?

[sparker_1982]

I dont have the knowledge thats the problem thats why im on this forum

[RubberCtyRauder]

Once again, a marauder is not a mustang. Marauder has full frame and different front suspension which also complicates fitting. I said the wiper cowl and steering linkage are issues. More power to ya if you know how to make it fit. You need to educate yourself. It would be posted here if it had been done.

[sparker_1982]

I'm gonna have to look into it more I know there will be alot of mods and new parts but I've read on another thread 5.4s can be swapped

[RubberCtyRauder]

5.4 sohc has been swapped not dohc as it won't fit under the hood

[WPG_Merc]

LMAO! this isn't a mustang:shake: , and i would advise you to educate yourself on Marauders , not mustangs!
:agree:
You need more home work for the 5.8 to fit,:shake:
Is 500 HP a realistic # for you,Why not mod the 4.6 you have with a blower,Comp Cams or :nos:
For me 345 RW/HP/N/A is crazy to drive on the streets as it is.:eek:

[martyo]

Subscribing!

Please post plenty of pictures of your swap!!!

[Bad_S55]

I don't even have a Marauder, and I can tell you that's almost an impossible project unless you're going for a balls out, stripped down race car. I've taken the measurements from the junkyard; a 5.4 quad cam engine is just way too wide. Throw away your HVAC system, wiper cowl, and a few other things. I don't think you understand either that these S197 Mustangs were designed to have a massive 5.4/5.8. A Panther was not.

It's a beautiful thought guy, but it just can't realistically be done. If you have money you want to burn, build a 5.3 big bore stroker, put some good cams in, and put some kind of supercharger on it. That'll get you to a real nice number you can happily boast about. Best of luck.

[justbob]

maybe u might not have the money to do it.


Now that right there was funny.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/02/27a675ac18010d559f912867ac90c5 7b.jpg


Builder Of Badassery

[justbob]

I say go for it! I already did the trans. [emoji12]




Builder Of Badassery

[martyo]

I say go for it! I already did the trans. [emoji12]




Builder Of Badassery

That's what I'm saying!

[PHHHHTT]

While the information given by some members has been caustic, the points they give are correct. Many years of experience by many members who have spent who-knows-how-much, above and beyond efforts, disappointments and all related facets they have personally witnessed. Please take great consideration to their input relating to what you may plan to attempt.
Modular engines are physically large for the displacement they provide. If you scrounge through the archives, you should be able to find the most common obstacles installing a 5.4 engine into a Panther body discussed.
A few people have installed the Chevy LS series of engines and have met their desired goals by doing so. Although this may be most cost effective engine swap to replacing the original 4.6 with another 4.6, it is not for me.
If your goal is mostly concerns power and your finances for the project are reasonably ample, may I suggest you visit Jon Kaase's website. He specializes in the Ford Boss 429 and 460 engine. These engines are in the Ford 385 engine series. You will find he offers everything from components to full dress engines. And one of the best things about 429/460 engines is that even though they can offer twice the displacement and more, they are physically narrower that a 4.6 engine. Jon has an article detailing how he placed one his built engines in a new 2008 Mustang (not a Marauder but a platform built for the 4.6) and he states he didn't even have to remove the hood.
Some members here have looked into doing the swap, but emissions testing in their home states would not allow such. Hopefully where you reside, this would not be a concern. But as for as I can determine, no one has installed a 429/460 into a 98 and newer Panther.

Good luck with whatever you attempt.

[HeavyMetalMerc]

if he has money and if possible may consider doing a coyote swap with boost. or is its size also a hindrance?

[Ms. Denmark]

Why not just build a Terminator to what ever HP goal you want?

[RubberCtyRauder]

if he has money and if possible may consider doing a coyote swap with boost. or is its size also a hindrance?

coyote swap isn't easy either due to size and pcm issues for both motor and trans.

[blkZooM]

I'll give it to you a nicer way, the build you want to do id's just too expensive, that motor alone goes for 30 grand and there world be all kinds of fitment issues with a dohc 5.4 or .8 with a blower on top

[J-MAN]

I'm gonna have to look into it more I know there will be alot of mods and new parts but I've read on another thread 5.4s can be swapped

Now that you mention it, I seem to recall reading that same thread. :rolleyes:

[solo5057]

my brother wants to put a 455 olds in his!!! i like the 4.6!:argue:

[sparker_1982]

I like the 4.6 I just want more than what it can do.I wouldnt buy the motor straight out I would piece it together starting with the block

[RubberCtyRauder]

I like the 4.6 I just want more than what it can do.I wouldnt buy the motor straight out I would piece it together starting with the block

The 5.4 and 5.8 dohc will not fit the engine bay The 5.4 sohc can fit. Look up the dimensions of the motors. You are completely wrong in your wants. A panther chassis and a mustang are not even close to be compatible. You came here to learn. We taught you it doesn't fit. If you want more than the 4.6, then why do we have members 4.6 with 500, 600 and over 700 horsepower?

[Logizyme]

Get the ford racing 5.0L BOSS iron block and stroke it to 5.3L and eaton swap then whipple upgrade it.

gives you the external size of the 4.6L and as close of displacement as you can get to the 5.4/5.8

The coyote has hot-rod packages that would allow you to run hydraulic power steering, but you'd pretty much need a manual transmission swap, if you can get past that the rest of swapping in a coyote is pretty straight forward, problem is its ALWAYS cheaper to get the same amount of power out of a 4.6/4vC based engine than a coyote since the car is already setup for such.

[rauder88]

I like the 4.6 I just want more than what it can do.I wouldnt buy the motor straight out I would piece it together starting with the block

I don't get what you mean here. More than a 4.6 can do? Money would be better spent modding a 4.6 to make 700+ horse than buying a 5.8 and hacking the car to stick it in.
There are Marauders here 700+ HP and Cobras turning more. Look what John Mihovetz was able to do with a B head 4.6. Doesn't get much more than that...
http://www.accufabracing.com/john-mihovetz-mustang/2-uncategorised/34-john-mihovetz-mustang-2

[Blown3.8]

Sparker, are you the guy following around Farm Truck on Street Outlaws?

[MOTOWN]

I like the 4.6 I just want more than what it can do.I wouldnt buy the motor straight out I would piece it together starting with the block

LMAO! and what exactly "CANT" it do:confused: , you have no clue!:shake:

[65fastback2+2]

you can accomplish what you want with a 4.6 4v....but at the same time, ignore the "it wont ever fit or work" people with the 5.4/5.8...It wouldnt take a whole lot to make it work.

most of your marauder guys are just in the box thinkers

[MOTOWN]

you can accomplish what you want with a 4.6 4v....but at the same time, ignore the "it wont ever fit or work" people with the 5.4/5.8...It wouldnt take a whole lot to make it work.

most of your marauder guys are just in the box thinkers

Please explain what it would take thats a simple solution:confused: I'm all ears!

[RubberCtyRauder]

you can accomplish what you want with a 4.6 4v....but at the same time, ignore the "it wont ever fit or work" people with the 5.4/5.8...It wouldnt take a whole lot to make it work.

most of your marauder guys are just in the box thinkers


A 5.8 will stick thru the hood like a 50's gasser drag car. Yes, please do explain your wealth of knowledge of how it fits with the it wont take a whole lot to make it work.

[65fastback2+2]

Please explain what it would take thats a simple solution:confused: I'm all ears!

Id start with converting to hydroboost.

then drop it in...heat up the hvac air box with a heat gun where its barely going to touch the valve cover and clearance it.

probably the most invasive part would be the alternator...havent decided if it is going to clear without fiddling with it or not

[65fastback2+2]

A 5.8 will stick thru the hood like a 50's gasser drag car. Yes, please do explain your wealth of knowledge of how it fits with the it wont take a whole lot to make it work.

cowl hoods are a stupid easy solution for the couple inches needed to clear the blower.

[MOTOWN]

cowl hoods are a stupid easy solution for the couple inches needed to clear the blower.

LOL wrong sir , even with a cowl hood no dice! and a hydroboost has nothing to do with the fitment issue that would be present.

[RubberCtyRauder]

gonna need more than a couple inches
a 5.4 DOHC is more than 7 inches taller. Not interested in SOHC installs.


Engine DimensionsEngineHeightDepthWid th4.6 SOHC26"23 5/8"26 5/8"4.6 DOHC27 1/8"23 5/8"26 5/8"5.4 SOHC28"23 5/8"27"5.4 DOHC35 1/2"23 5/8"28 1/4"

Show me anywhere on the net where a 5.4 or 5.8 DOHC has been installed in a panther. crown vic, marquis, marauder...No 5.4 SOHC lighting motors either..that's not DOHC

[65fastback2+2]

gonna need more than a couple inches
a 5.4 DOHC is more than 7 inches taller. Not interested in SOHC installs.


Engine DimensionsEngineHeightDepthWid th4.6 SOHC26"23 5/8"26 5/8"4.6 DOHC27 1/8"23 5/8"26 5/8"5.4 SOHC28"23 5/8"27"5.4 DOHC35 1/2"23 5/8"28 1/4"

Show me anywhere on the net where a 5.4 or 5.8 DOHC has been installed in a panther. crown vic, marquis, marauder...No 5.4 SOHC lighting motors either..that's not DOHC

35.5" is a navigator 5.4...have you ever seen those navi truck intakes?

here is one in my buddy's 5.4 4v lightning

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/65fastback22/stoffer1_zpsj1qjucvv.jpg (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/65fastback22/media/stoffer1_zpsj1qjucvv.jpg.html)


you know tall one is with a normal intake like the 5.4's get? Like the sheetmetal sullivan style?

yes...same truck...we're going twin turbo on it so swapped intakes.

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/65fastback22/stoffer2_zpsms0ymmla.jpg (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/65fastback22/media/stoffer2_zpsms0ymmla.jpg.html)

28.5" tall.


yup...a mere 3/4" taller than the factory 4.6

[65fastback2+2]

4.6 dohc is 26 5/8" wide
5.4 dohc is 28 1/4" wide

Thats 1.5" difference in width....or....3/4" wider on each side.

Go stare at your motor and tell me whats all within 3/4" of touching the current motor down the valve covers....pretty much nothing

[RubberCtyRauder]

I said panther chassis, don't care about a truck swap, not the same..show me a panther 5.4dohc swap..nothing more, nothing less

[65fastback2+2]

I said panther chassis, don't care about a truck swap, not the same..show me a panther 5.4dohc swap..nothing more, nothing less

i forgot intakes magically change heights based on the vehicle you bolt them in :banana2:

[65fastback2+2]

again...tell me what is within 3/4" of the current motor that cannot be fairly easily moved right out of the way....dont worry, I'll wait.

3/4" taller, 3/4" wider on each side...take some pics and use some fancy ms paint skills to point out the immovable.

[RubberCtyRauder]

I'm not wasting my time..you failed to prove it has been done in a panther chassis..intake height is just part of the equation..You keep beating around the question...5.4DOHC in panther chassis..you keep telling me where it does fit and how in another platform!!!!!because you have never done it in a panther chassis..So when you get it all figured out and swapped, let us know how it went. until then pound salt.

[Bad_S55]

You're the same dude that already went on this rant in another thread: http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97416

Until you've actually tried it, you can't go around saying, "oh yeah it's easy as hell! The only reason no Panther owner has tried it is because we're all close minded!" As soon as you try it successfully, make a thread about it. I'd be happy to read about how it was actually done, not just thought about.

[ZoeChamp316]

There's a member on here who goes by the handle "Massacre" who did this swap ages ago into an aero panther. Hopefully he comes in and settles this.

[sparker_1982]

I hope so I'm tired of all the naysayers Hood clearance is not a factor becouse I'll OBVIOUSLY have to but a modified hood in

[sparker_1982]

I got a shop and tools at my disposal to make mods on frame and suspension I just need a starter plan and more research before I start pouring money into building a 5.8

[sparker_1982]

Its gonna cost probably 20k+ to build.Anybody know if the 70 tranny can be beefed up to handle the 5.8 or maybe switch to a 75??

[Trevor M]

Just an FYI the 4.6l DOHC motor can hit 500hp no problem and for half what you plan to spend just to buy your fancy 5.8l motor. If you are aware of the car called the Koenisegg CCR, it is powered by a 4.6 DOHC modified motor and spits out 800+ hp.....just sayin. If you have your heart strung on that monstrous 5.8 though, please please give us a nice write up on it, i would love to see how that works out.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Sparker1982..i don't believe you ever told us your goals of this 5.8 swap..What is your RWHP goal? either you are thinking of the SOHC 4.6 which does peak out around 400 rwhp with mods for the most part or don't have much knowledge in the 4.6 DOHC..Why do you want to go thru such a painstaking swap and have troubles to work around than do a build that is tried and proven to get the result you want?

[65fastback2+2]

I'm not wasting my time..you failed to prove it has been done in a panther chassis..intake height is just part of the equation..You keep beating around the question...5.4DOHC in panther chassis..you keep telling me where it does fit and how in another platform!!!!!because you have never done it in a panther chassis..So when you get it all figured out and swapped, let us know how it went. until then pound salt.

too busy doing swaps in f150's and mustangs to waste time on a 4-door land barge swap just for giggles.

but keep believing 3/4" is keeping you from doing it.

[65fastback2+2]

You're the same dude that already went on this rant in another thread: http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97416

Until you've actually tried it, you can't go around saying, "oh yeah it's easy as hell! The only reason no Panther owner has tried it is because we're all close minded!" As soon as you try it successfully, make a thread about it. I'd be happy to read about how it was actually done, not just thought about.

im not out racing my 4-door tank lol...so why would I do it?

Ive got a light weight 2-door for my racing needs. 5.4 4v turbo with a 6r80 in a sn95 on a stock computer...thats what i spend my time on (yes, also told on that one that it "cant be done" lol)

if i can ever find a busted up crown vic though...i'll drop it in and take pics just to show it fitting.

"cant be done" is always said by people who are scared to try. I'm just a doer.

[65fastback2+2]

There's a member on here who goes by the handle "Massacre" who did this swap ages ago into an aero panther. Hopefully he comes in and settles this.

lies! it "cant be done" :violin:

[Bad_S55]

Rob (Massacre) did a 4v 4.6 swap in an aero, not a 5.4. Here's his build thread: http://www.pantherbb.com/Thread-Mercury-Grand-Marquis-GS?highlight=Grand+Marquis

[ZoeChamp316]

Rob (Massacre) did a 4v 4.6 swap in an aero, not a 5.4. Here's his build thread: http://www.pantherbb.com/Thread-Mercury-Grand-Marquis-GS?highlight=Grand+Marquis

Yes he did, he pulled the 5.4 dohc motor out because of the weight he said it handled really sloppy because it was very unbalanced. It does now have a 4.6L dohc but if he wants to go back and put the 5.4 dohc the set up is already there for him to do so.

[Bad_S55]

Yes he did, he pulled the 5.4 dohc motor out because of the weight he said it handled really sloppy because it was very unbalanced. It does now have a 4.6L dohc but if he wants to go back and put the 5.4 dohc the set up is already there for him to do so.

Okay Chief. I don't know it's history before that so I'll take your word on that. That's still an aero, not a whale. A fair amount of different stuff.

Here's another thing I can say about the 5.4 DOHC; the extra deck alone height isn't the problem. The problem is that it pushes the already wide heads out even further, ramming right into the HVAC box.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

im not out racing my 4-door tank lol...so why would I do it?

Ive got a light weight 2-door for my racing needs. 5.4 4v turbo with a 6r80 in a sn95 on a stock computer...thats what i spend my time on (yes, also told on that one that it "cant be done" lol)

if i can ever find a busted up crown vic though...i'll drop it in and take pics just to show it fitting.

"cant be done" is always said by people who are scared to try. I'm just a doer.

So whats stopping you from starting on this project? Busted up Crown Vics are a dime a dozen. Chop chop.

[65fastback2+2]

So whats stopping you from starting on this project? Busted up Crown Vics are a dime a dozen. Chop chop.

did you miss the part that I already have a project?

Ive got the 2000 GT racecar, 2004 SVT Focus, 2003 Marauder and just picked up a 2000 Lightning....i dont need more work

[65fastback2+2]

interesting note...you can fit a 5.4 4v in a ford focus....but apparently its impossible in a marauder

[65fastback2+2]

or you can fit a supercharged 4.6 in there easy as well

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/15580625+w+h+q80+re0+cr1/0404_03z%2BFord_Focus%2BEngine _Bay_View.jpg


or a huge single plane carb setup with a 5.4 4v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFvlUuy0wSY

[RubberCtyRauder]

too busy doing swaps in f150's and mustangs to waste time on a 4-door land barge swap just for giggles.

but keep believing 3/4" is keeping you from doing it.

I'm not the one swapping anything. Anything can be done with enough money and a BFH. 3/4 " ain't stopping me , it can be 3 feet, I'm not looking to swap my motor. Do all the 1/2 ton swaps you want. Like that is hard or something. Why not drop a v8 caterpillar and a fuller 18 speed while you're at it

[RubberCtyRauder]

interesting note...you can fit a 5.4 4v in a ford focus....but apparently its impossible in a marauder

Didn't say impossible. It's impractical when a 4.6 dohc can give all that a 5.8 can. Why spend 20k when you can spend half.

[ZoeChamp316]

Okay Chief. I don't know it's history before that so I'll take your word on that. That's still an aero, not a whale. A fair amount of different stuff.

Here's another thing I can say about the 5.4 DOHC; the extra deck alone height isn't the problem. The problem is that it pushes the already wide heads out even further, ramming right into the HVAC box.

I rather not have anyone take my word for it as it leaves the impression that there is still room for doubt so I rather just post evidence to support what I say.

Here he is helping a member by the the handle dohcmerc
http://unitedpantherownersassociation .us/Forum/Thread-5-4L?page=20

here he is saying he has done it
http://unitedpantherownersassociation .us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26334#pid26334

here he is talking about the weight
http://unitedpantherownersassociation .us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26367#pid26367


http://unitedpantherownersassociation .us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26370#pid26370

http://unitedpantherownersassociation .us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26348#pid26348

[detrailers]

junior member bench racer

[merc]

So you want a bigger motor (5.4), build trans, return style fuel system, big brakes, a six point roll bar (Maybe), upgraded rear end, and drag radials (Short list). Is that what you are talking about? :beer: Some people said it was impossible to go to the moon. A single Saturn V launch cost up to $375 million in 1969 — or, in today’s money, a few billion dollars. So why not transplant that 5.4 motor into a Marauder. If you have the funds and time I will be glad to see your progress. Their are a few members on this site that have real world experience in managing major projects like the one you are talking about, but good advice does not come free, just keep that in mind.


So if it's all about cubic inches then take a look at this motor. Its already been done on a Marauder.
http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/crate-engines/big-block-zz-572-720-r.html

[BeeDamn]

I'm not the one swapping anything. Anything can be done with enough money and a BFH. 3/4 " ain't stopping me , it can be 3 feet, I'm not looking to swap my motor. Do all the 1/2 ton swaps you want. Like that is hard or something. Why not drop a v8 caterpillar and a fuller 18 speed while you're at it


:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[ctrlraven]

I love these pipe dream threads. I think last year someone was hell bent on doing the 5.0 coyote swap in theirs which was just a bunch of bs.

From top to bottom the 5.4/5.8 dohc motor is just too wide to fit WITHOUT having to modify or hack up anything then reliability and drive-ability become a big issue. A member here at one point in time had sat a 6.8 SOHC V10 in their MM engine bay but due to having to hack up and modify a fair amount of stuff it just was not worth it to them anymore.

Going to the 5.8 DOHC will turn a very nice collectors car into a race project car.

For the power the 5.8 dohc s/c motor puts out can easily be attained with a forged 4.6 and larger s/c such as a whipple, it's proven. Go big bore with the 5.0 iron boss block and stroker on it (5.3L) then 600-700 with an s/c will be even easier.

There is no reason to re-invent the wheel here when there is no need to. So by all means go start yourself a build thread and cataloging details/pictures of the build.

Oh and the reason why it's never been done is because no one bravely stupid enough to waste all the money just to hit a brick wall and have to throw in the towel.

Hell it would be easier to swap in a sbc LS2/3 motor, slap a turbo on it and still retain the HVAC, brake booster and cowl.

[Spectragod]

Why spend 20k when you can spend half.

If you buy a car already done....:rolleyes: I am way north 20k in my stroked 4.6 with a twin screw, Or, you could short change a build for the sake of saying that you have a big motor...

I saw this exact thing when I built the motor in my Road King, I added all the extra parts that don't add power or reliability according to the HD wrench that built both mine and my buddies, mine made 13% more HP and TQ and didn't blow up in 10k miles like his, because he short changed the build....... it's always cheaper to build it twice???:confused:

You can build it for less, but you almost always sacrifice something.

Good luck with the build, I would love to see it done.:beer:

[RubberCtyRauder]

If you buy a car already done....:rolleyes: I am way north 20k in my stroked 4.6 with a twin screw, Or, you could short change a build for the sake of saying that you have a big motor...

I saw this exact thing when I built the motor in my Road King, I added all the extra parts that don't add power or reliability according to the HD wrench that built both mine and my buddies, mine made 13% more HP and TQ and didn't blow up in 10k miles like his, because he short changed the build....... it's always cheaper to build it twice???:confused:

You can build it for less, but you almost always sacrifice something.

Good luck with the build, I would love to see it done.:beer:

That was a number he threw out and he didn't take into consideration supporting mods for trans, suspension, driveline brakes etc. I bought mine complete and it was cheaper than keeping what I had and adding it into it. Of course I tweaked a few things but didn't have to add a whole lot either. My point was he never included his goal for the car just that he wanted a 5.8..Hp costs money and if he could spend less building the 4.6dohc than fabbing in a 5.8 for the same hp goals because it has been proven to work. I don't care where he spends his money, but he came here for knowledge and we don't have it because there are no current 5.8 swapped maraduers in the membership beause it is alot of work for nothing really gained.

[chief455]

As stated, most anything can be done - with sacrafices, compromises, finances and skills.
Most every innovator, doer - does not start by asking questions on internet forums. They read, research, start trying, and either determine it is not worth it, or get it done.
Then this accomplishment surfaces on the internet.
sparker, fastback - don't let anyone type NO into your dreams - get offline and show us how it's done!
But if you're not commited to something like a swap nobody has ever done, don't waste time banging up enthusiast forums about your dreams to violate their cars ;)

[sparker_1982]

So my dreams have been shot down and I'm just gonna do a 03 cobra swap. NEW everything already have the list to build an official terminator build. A terminator is a definite respective install for my beautiful SB

[mercury_1988]

Being built on a 2011 Police Interceptor with 15k ORIGINAL MILES. We fought hard to get this car. The LAST year made and the mileage is incredible. Basically under factory warranty. The donor car will essentially be stripped to nothing and built from the ground up. New suspension components, brakes and so on. The interior will be all brand new.



The engine is a brand new Ford Racing Coyote crate engine
Getrag MT82 6 Speed Transmission from an 2014 Boss 302 with 2890 miles on it
Completely Unique look inside and out, we aim to make it feel like newer Fords.

Black Demon Pearl Candy paint. It will look black but ethereally dark blood red in the sun.
20" Wheels 295 rears
3.55 Gears
Full exhaust
Leather Wrapped dash with accent stitching
Brushed Black Metal Dash Trim
Ford Brick Red Leather seats
Black interior
Black Carpet
Black suede Headliner
Black Suede A/B/C Pillars
Custom Styled Front Bumper Unique to the car
Custom Styled Rear Bumper Unique to the car
Ambient Lighting
Custom Headlights with LEDs, HIDs and more
Custom Side Markers
Push to Start



More....






Stay Tuned, we are taking our time with this one. World First 5.0 Coyote Powered Vic.

World First 5.0 Coyote Powered Vic. (http://www.cmautowerkz.com/cmauto/inventory/current-inventory/152-2008-ford-crown-victoria-police-interceptor-qhellspawnq-50-coyote-powered-0-miles-.html)

[RubberCtyRauder]

World First 5.0 Coyote Powered Vic. (http://www.cmautowerkz.com/cmauto/inventory/current-inventory/152-2008-ford-crown-victoria-police-interceptor-qhellspawnq-50-coyote-powered-0-miles-.html)

It's not done yet.....have to still wait and see if and how it turns out.

[mercury_1988]

Can't wait.

[justbob]

"Stay Tuned, we are taking our time with this one."

TRUTH! LMAO


Builder Of Badassery

[martyo]

World First 5.0 Coyote Powered Vic. (http://www.cmautowerkz.com/cmauto/inventory/current-inventory/152-2008-ford-crown-victoria-police-interceptor-qhellspawnq-50-coyote-powered-0-miles-.html)

There is a lot on my purchase list before I drop $42,000 on a Crown Vic., let alone one that is still nit yet built.

[martyo]

So my dreams have been shot down and I'm just gonna do a 03 cobra swap. NEW everything already have the list to build an official terminator build. A terminator is a definite respective install for my beautiful SB

Really what you will want to do is blend the Terminator motor and parts of the the Marauder motor....

[sparker_1982]

I thought everything on the terminator was better than the marauder 4.6

[rauder88]

I thought everything on the terminator was better than the marauder 4.6

Heads are the same...
But the block and contents are different. Iron block with a Kellogg forged crankshaft, Manley forged rods and pistons.
Essentially you just need to swap the short block.

[chief455]

^_^ THIS = winning!

[Logizyme]

Everything CM does is either half assed or completely not classy, or both. It's a shame that amount of talent and resources is wasted building cars that disgust me.

[sparker_1982]

Yeah I've got the specific list to build the terminator from ground up.The parts arent that expensive compared to the crazy prices of the 5.8.For the price of just the bare 5.8 block I can get the cast iron block forged crank and almost the pistons too.The only thing that kinda surprised me and disappointed was that apperently a s/c m112 cobra 4.6 only puts out 390 hp.

[martyo]

I thought everything on the terminator was better than the marauder 4.6

There are parts from the Marauder motor that you will want to retain. For instance, the front cover from the Marauder should be swapped over to the Cobra motor.

[ctrlraven]

Yeah I've got the specific list to build the terminator from ground up.The parts arent that expensive compared to the crazy prices of the 5.8.For the price of just the bare 5.8 block I can get the cast iron block forged crank and almost the pistons too.The only thing that kinda surprised me and disappointed was that apperently a s/c m112 cobra 4.6 only puts out 390 hp.
The 03/04 Cobra were under rated from factory, "390" is what was listed on paper, most owners could see 360-390 AT the rear wheels.

Also check out the Boss50 iron block, a few more cubes can help bump up the power especially if being s/c. Can use stock size forged cobra crank, rods and just need big bore pistons from like Diamond Racing Pistons.

[sparker_1982]

For the 5.0what kind of mods need to be made to fit it in??

[ctrlraven]

For the 5.0what kind of mods need to be made to fit it in??
To fit in the car? None that I know of. It's the same size block as the 4.6 but iron cast and larger cylinder bores. It's a bare block so the head deck and cylinders will need to be milled.

Ford p/n is M-6010-BOSS50
http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-modular-boss-block.html

I had planned on building a big bore 5.0 block but just didn't have the extra money for the machining and assy of it all at the time and a built longblock came up for sale so I sold my boss50 stuff and bought the built longblock instead.

Boss5.0 block
Stock 03/04 cobra 8-bolt crankshaft
Forged Diamond Pistons. 15cc dish, fly cut for 4v heads (30020-4)
Total seal rings
Manley H-Beam Rods
Cometic Big Bore Head Gaskets (.030 Thick)
Ford 8-bolt flywheel

There is still other stuff needed but that's some of the stuff that I had for my build.

[breeze]

This should be fun

[BeeDamn]

How about GT40 ENGINE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-engine-transaxle-assembly-Ford-GT40-super-car-/181042687703) :eek::eek::eek:

[rauder88]

How about GT40 ENGINE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-engine-transaxle-assembly-Ford-GT40-super-car-/181042687703) :eek::eek::eek:

Move the gas tank, Make it a rear engine car. Best 50 grand you can spend on a Marauder.

[lji372]

Move the gas tank, Make it a rear engine car. Best 50 grand you can spend on a Marauder.

May as well go with front wheel drive too:beer:

[rauder88]

May as well go with front wheel drive too:beer:

AWD twin GT 5.4 engines. Genius.

[Joe Walsh]

May as well go with front wheel drive too:beer:


AWD twin GT 5.4 engines. Genius.

I smell Aren Jay in the house!!!!

[rauder88]

I smell Aren Jay in the house!!!!

Ahh the good old days

[Joe Walsh]

:hmmm:......I wonder if a V12 Phaeton engine would fit into a Marauder....maybe the Marauder 'L' model would allow more room for such a swap....?

[rauder88]

:hmmm:......I wonder if a V12 Phaeton engine would fit into a Marauder....maybe the Marauder 'L' model would allow more room for such a swap....?

It's a W12, so yes should fit, a little taller and a little wider.
21" long
28" tall
27" wide

Should fit better than a 5.4
Now how to mount up a TKO 6 speed to it.
Who's in for a group buy for adapters?

[sparker_1982]

I thought about a 6 speed manual but MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN that would be a ton of modding.A manual marauder would be the S@#T!!!

[MMBLUE]

I thought about a 6 speed manual but MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN that would be a ton of modding.A manual marauder would be the S@#T!!!

Post count =21

Ask Justbob if he can do it.

He can do anything :bows:

Oh wait.... He did it already :beer:

[massacre]

5.4 sohc has been swapped not dohc as it won't fit under the hood

Not true I did it.
Takes some modifications and i ended up removing it because it handled like crap, but 5.4 DOHC will absolutely fit.

[sparker_1982]

Whats the big deal with the post counts its retarded.Of course I don't have that many post counts just got my SB 2 months ago.Mentioning my post counts=Douchebaggery

[sparker_1982]

A year from now I'll probably still have low posts but better upgrades than dbags who keep bringing it up

[massacre]

You seem like an obvious troll, is that not the case?

[Zack]

Why hasn't this thread died yet?

[rauder88]

I thought I killed it earlier with the AWD twin GT engines.
Then the W12 bit.

Its funny how some can have "all the money in the world" and no brain...

[justbob]

Six speed Marauder.

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And yes, it is the ****.


Builder Of Badassery

[champ1173]

Six speed Marauder.

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And yes, it is the ****.


Builder Of Badassery

That can't be done!!!!:D

[Hooptie]

Some people have more money than brains but hey each to their own.

[MMBLUE]

Whats the big deal with the post counts its retarded.Of course I don't have that many post counts just got my SB 2 months ago.Mentioning my post counts=Douchebaggery

WRONG = Dumbassery not doing any research before posting dumb shat on here :flamer:99% of the stuff you are bringing up has been discussed at nausea levels. Google it, or research it here using the search box.


Why hasn't this thread died yet?

That is the question of the day :help: