MM Projector Headlights

[SteelQualityMan]

I was looking through some older threads and saw that a member here was making projectoor headlight assemblies out of the stock headlamp units.

Does anyone know if these are still available? I tried searching posts and the OP's handle but no success :violin:If I missed it I apologize. I've been a member here for quite a while but almost never posted. Just recently became able to afford a few long-neglected mods, buying parts from members and off of eBay. Circumstances forced me to be a "lurker" because I was only able to keep up with basic maintenance but no mods. I've had my N/A MM since 2007, and I just acquired a boosted 2001 Kenny Brown Panther II Crown Vic. They are both great cars, and though very similar they have very different "personalities."

I know that our cars have been around long enough that just about any problem has been covered here. If I can't find something I need in this fantastic resource I will post and be grateful for your help. :bows:

[RubberCtyRauder]

There is a place that sells projector crown vic lights, cant recall name at the moment..wanna say about $600 or so..marauder lights not the same, no aftermarket for marauder lights..I know of the member that was talking about making them, he no longer owns a marauder and I;ve inquired as well about doing mine, but it has not happened. some have done the mod themselves if you are savvy, A place called lightwerkz will do it, but they wanted a $1000 and used new aftermarket housigs, not sure if they would do it if housings supplied

found a link for CV lights.

http://www.headlightrevolution.com/Starr_HID_Crown_Vic_p/starr-xp3017.htm

[Spectragod]

There is a place that sells projector crown vic lights, cant recall name at the moment..wanna say about $600 or so..marauder lights not the same, no aftermarket for marauder lights..I know of the member that was talking about making them, he no longer owns a marauder and I;ve inquired as well about doing mine, but it has not happened. some have done the mod themselves if you are savvy, A place called lightwerkz will do it, but they wanted a $1000 and used new aftermarket housigs, not sure if they would do it if housings supplied

found a link for CV lights.

http://www.headlightrevolution.com/Starr_HID_Crown_Vic_p/starr-xp3017.htm


Lightwerkz makes a nice end product, worth every dollar, I have used them on a couple of Ford Raptor's that got some "modified" headlight assemblies.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Last month I was just quoted $995 PLUS I supply my headlights or aftermarket drop ship new headlights to Lightwerkz. Screw that.

I will be making my own this winter season. Heck, I might even start ordering stuff one of these days and messing with it when I have some free time every couple of weeks.

[justbob]

$1,000 for lights? Ya'll are nuts!

It doesn't make it any faasssttter! [emoji12]


Builder Of Badassery

[Lowndex]

Even I think $1000 for headlights is wacked.

[Spectragod]

$1000 is cheap, Raptor assemblies were $1600 for the pair.

[burt ragio]

A thousand dollars is crazy money for projection head lights that is a lot of jingle. One can do it it they have time & patience. Check out vids on You Tube.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Im not paying $1000 for lights..Some day I may try it myself as I have a new pair of MM headlight assemblies in case I screw something up on the set in the car now.

[Vortech347]

$1000 is cheap, Raptor assemblies were $1600 for the pair.

Yea, but that's a $50k vehicle. $1k is like 10-15% of the total value of a MM now. haha

[fastblackmerc]

Install some good quality HIDs....

[Spectragod]

Yea, but that's a $50k vehicle. $1k is like 10-15% of the total value of a MM now. haha

15k???? Maybe yours...... Not mine.....:D

[GoldPanther]

Here's just a tip for you all.
Get some grandmarquis headlights and work with them. Grand marquis' headlight assm are the exact same thin as marauder except that they're black inside. But of course we all know that!
So before ruin a set of marauder headlights try experimenting with mgm's.

This reminds me that there's a guy selling a set of NEW OEM MM headlights In ebay for $600. Meth is a hell of a drug!

[burt ragio]

Fact is our oem bulb lumen is the pits. I can't see much of anything at night. I don't think many get 12.5 volts at the bulb socket. On the cheap a wire harness with a relay would be a good option. But projector headlights would be the best.

[MOTOWN]

You can get LED Headlight kits that are much brighter than hids , i just installed an LED set on LJs Blue S/C Marauder, and they are twice as bright as anyone's hids , and they have bright/regular settings.

[RubberCtyRauder]

You can get LED Headlight kits that are much brighter than hids , i just installed an LED set on LJs Blue S/C Marauder, and they are twice as bright as anyone's hids , and they have bright/regular settings.

Pics? Any info about the LED headlight kit?

[MOTOWN]

Pics? Any info about the LED headlight kit?

I'll get the info from LJ , i was very impressed!

[FastMerc]

Install some good quality HIDs....


That's what I did and am extremely happy with them. No way I am doing 1,000.00 dollars for lights. Just like LED tail lights a thousand bucks doing it myself not!!!

[slickster]

I found a shop that did a few mgm projectors for $350? I'll try to find him again and try a set

[GoldPanther]

Fact is our oem bulb lumen is the pits. I can't see much of anything at night. I don't think many get 12.5 volts at the bulb socket. On the cheap a wire harness with a relay would be a good option. But projector headlights would be the best.

I saw a guy testing for voltage his vic and he got 11.5V at the bulbs with the car running. The 18g wiring Ford use is the culprit, and also the weak 10A relay inside the LCM that powers both headlights.

[burt ragio]

Where did you order the LEDs from ?
What kit or P/N is it ?
Do you have any pictures ?

[burt ragio]

I saw a guy testing for voltage his vic and he got 11.5V at the bulbs with the car running. The 18g wiring Ford use is the culprit, and also the weak 10A relay inside the LCM that powers both headlights.

I wonder when Jim does the LMC upgrade if there is a higher voltage reading at the bulb socket ?

[fastblackmerc]

I wonder when Jim does the LMC upgrade if there is a higher voltage reading at the bulb socket ?

I've actually had a few members tell me there headlights were brighter after installed my upgraded LCM, I fact brighter to the point of oncoming driver flashing their headlight at them.

IMHO.... The ultimate upgrade for a stock system would be an upgraded harness from GoldPanter and my upgraded LCM.

[fastblackmerc]

Where did you order the LEDs from ?
What kit or P/N is it ?
Do you have any pictures ?

I'd like to see these LEDs also.

It's my understanding that most of the high powered LED bulbs have a fan to keep the components cool. This would no fit into the headlight assembly with either the rubber or plastic cap installed. If neither cap is installed the headlight might / probably fill with condensation.

[MyBlackBeasts]

I'd like to see these LEDs also.

It's my understanding that most of the high powered LED bulbs have a fan to keep the components cool. This would no fit into the headlight assembly with either the rubber or plastic cap installed. If neither cap is installed the headlight might / probably fill with condensation.


Gen1: http://www.gtrlighting.com/gtr-lighting-gen-1-led-headlight-9007-conversion-kit-2-200-2-600-lumen-bulbs/

Gen2: http://www.gtrlighting.com/gtr-lighting-gen-2-all-in-one-9007-led-headlight-bulbs-4-500-3-600-lumen-bulbs/

Going to try in my p/u 1st.

[Bad_S55]

Spectragod's headlights. Jerry's Eaton swap had them too, but I didn't get a picture.

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss216/bad_S55/20150815_155337_zpsetpcvq5k.jp g (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/bad_S55/media/20150815_155337_zpsetpcvq5k.jp g.html)

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss216/bad_S55/20150815_155326_zpsmjmvp5ui.jp g (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/bad_S55/media/20150815_155326_zpsmjmvp5ui.jp g.html)

[fastblackmerc]

Gen1: http://www.gtrlighting.com/gtr-lighting-gen-1-led-headlight-9007-conversion-kit-2-200-2-600-lumen-bulbs/

Gen2: http://www.gtrlighting.com/gtr-lighting-gen-2-all-in-one-9007-led-headlight-bulbs-4-500-3-600-lumen-bulbs/

Going to try in my p/u 1st.

The fan in the bulb assembly is too big to fit in the MM headlight assembly with the rubber or plastic dust cap installed. If it would fit behind the dust cap then your not getting any cooling for the bulb since your only recycling the air in the headlight assembly.

I'm interested to see how they fit.

[J-MAN]

$1,000 for lights? Ya'll are nuts!

It doesn't make it any faasssttter! [emoji12]


Builder Of Badassery


Even I think $1000 for headlights is wacked.

Really? Go in your wife's closet and add up the amounts of the tags still hanging on the clothes that were bought and never worn. :mad2: :bigcry:

[RubberCtyRauder]

Really? Go in your wife's closet and add up the amounts of the tags still hanging on the clothes that were bought and never worn. :mad2: :bigcry:


No wife, so not an issue :D:banana:

[lji372]

Really? Go in your wife's closet and add up the amounts of the tags still hanging on the clothes that were bought and never worn. :mad2: :bigcry:

truth :banana2:

[Spectragod]

Really? Go in your wife's closet and add up the amounts of the tags still hanging on the clothes that were bought and never worn. :mad2: :bigcry:

I took several bags of clothes "she" donated to a local organization, imagine my surprise when they started pulling clothes out that "she had to have, and I was there when she bought them", still with the fu*$!ng tags on them.....:eek: Only $1500 or so worth of her crap......

So..... do I care if I dump 10k on a motor, not at all....:burnout:

[chief455]

found a link for CV lights.

http://www.headlightrevolution.com/Starr_HID_Crown_Vic_p/starr-xp3017.htm
Another cheaper version

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-2011-Ford-Crown-Victoria-SMD-LED-DRL-Projector-Headlights-Black-Head-Lamps/371417826192?_trksid=p2047675. c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo% 3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D299 80%26meid%3D5896e702ed6f467baa dacd27da7c86fe%26pid%3D100011% 26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D371 413563856#ht_2807wt_1312

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[71cyclone]

HUM nice concept

[Serge]

People are willing to spend thousands on performance upgrades but aren't willing to pay 500 bucks on a safety component.:rolleyes:

[RubberCtyRauder]

I would spend $5-600 on projector marauder headlights. $1000 prolly not

[fastblackmerc]

People are willing to spend thousands on performance upgrades but aren't willing to pay 500 bucks on a safety component.:rolleyes:


I would spend $5-600 on projector marauder headlights. $1000 prolly not

Why spend 1K when you can get a good quality HID system kit (HID Hi & Lo with 4 ballasts) for around $300.00?

[Serge]

Why spend 1K when you can get a good quality HID system kit (HID Hi & Lo with 4 ballasts) for around $300.00?

Because stock Marauder headlights are designed for halogen bulbs. When you install HID bulb inside a housing made for a halogen bulb you end up with incorrect light pattern.

The only Panther that had OEM headlights designed for HIDs is a Town Car. If you compare Town Car HID housings to halogen housings you will see that the reflector is different.

You can build a decent projector setup for under 500 bucks. I don't know where you guys are getting 1k quotes from.

[fastblackmerc]

Because stock Marauder headlights are designed for halogen bulbs. When you install HID bulb inside a housing made for a halogen bulb you end up with incorrect light pattern.

The only Panther that had OEM headlights designed for HIDs is a Town Car. If you compare Town Car HID housings to halogen housings you will see that the reflector is different.

You can build a decent projector setup for under 500 bucks. I don't know where you guys are getting 1k quotes from.

You know everyone says that the HID upgrade gives you an incorrect light pattern....

Well here's mine

Lo beams
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0281.jpg (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/fastblackmerc/media/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0281.jpg.html)

Hi beams
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0275.jpg (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/fastblackmerc/media/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0275.jpg.html)

I just don't see it.


The 1k is to have them professional made.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Lightwerkz in NJ wants a grand to build them

[burt ragio]

The leds look great the price is good but the 55 watt might even be to much for upgraded LMC. So, who is going to get a pair of $500 projectors & let use know the results ?

[lji372]

You know everyone says that the HID upgrade gives you an incorrect light pattern....

Well here's mine

Lo beams
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0281.jpg (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/fastblackmerc/media/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0281.jpg.html)

Hi beams
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0275.jpg (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/fastblackmerc/media/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0275.jpg.html)

I just don't see it.


The 1k is to have them professional made.



oncoming traffic sees the difference :beatnik:

[fastblackmerc]

oncoming traffic sees the difference :beatnik:

Yep that's been said too....

I have never been flashed by oncoming vehicles.

[fastblackmerc]

The leds look great the price is good but the 55 watt might even be to much for upgraded LMC. So, who is going to get a pair of $500 projectors & let use know the results ?

If they use a properly sized relay, the LCM should have a problem.

[Serge]

All that light scatter shouldn't be there.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42 140&d=1440533528

Compare that with projectors.

This is my retrofit using pricey TSX projectors that I did before retrofits really took off.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/630358/original/dsc_2870.jpg

This is my cheap Ebay projector retrofit. Can be had for like 100 bucks.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/901593/original/dsc_8369.jpg

With high beams.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/901594/original/dsc_8367.jpg

[lji372]

All that light scatter shouldn't be there.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42 140&d=1440533528

Compare that with projectors.

This is my retrofit using pricey TSX projectors that I did before retrofits really took off.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/630358/original/dsc_2870.jpg

This is my cheap Ebay projector retrofit. Can be had for like 100 bucks.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/901593/original/dsc_8369.jpg

With high beams.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/901594/original/dsc_8367.jpg

me likey the projector "laser beam", not a fan of the eyeballs from the outside. but then again i'm behind the wheel:D:D:D:D

[Bad_S55]

me likey the projector "laser beam", not a fan of the eyeballs from the outside. but then again i'm behind the wheel:D:D:D:D

What's the deal with the projectors that you & Spectragod have anyway? Did you guys whip those up yourself?

[Spectragod]

What's the deal with the projectors that you & Spectragod have anyway? Did you guys whip those up yourself?

I got mine from a member that bought them, and never used them, for way less than 1k.

They are pretty easy to do, you can buy quality bulbs, ballasts and projectors for $500 or less and do it yourself.

[lji372]

A former marauder owner somehow put them on my car without me ever really asking for them.
He knew best I suppose. :lol:

[1Marauder]

Tell him or her to come over to my house.... And light up my life!

[capt512]

I built mine, and made a thread on here with how I did it. I'll look for it.


* http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=81812

[Limited360]

A former marauder owner somehow put them on my car without me ever really asking for them.
He knew best I suppose. :lol:

Apparently he needs to make some more sets for your fleet.

We should make a bracket and a template this time...

[lji372]

Apparently he needs to make some more sets for your fleet.

We should make a bracket and a template this time...

i support this idea:beer:

[Limited360]

i support this idea:beer:

I have the test piece in the basement already broke down... just need to find this thing called time I suppose...

[RubberCtyRauder]

I have the test piece in the basement already broke down... just need to find this thing called time I suppose...

I'll give you some of my time, jerry's cars can live without you for a little while.:beer::D

[lji372]

I'll give you some of my time, jerry's cars can live without you for a little while.:beer::D

i'll keep it short


*** :beer:

[RubberCtyRauder]

i'll keep it short


*** :beer:

What? I cant read shorthand:banana:

[Spectragod]

I have the test piece in the basement already broke down... just need to find this thing called time I suppose...

You need to update your sig line, I thought 1 more was added to the herd.

[Limited360]

i'll keep it short


*** :beer:

What is this short hand you speak of? I seem to have this *** on a few shirts...

[Limited360]

You need to update your sig line, I thought 1 more was added to the herd.

Sadly its up to 5 since I made my signature last...

Blue - NA, doesn't leave the house from what I know...
Brown - Trilogy, daily but its been stolen by some kid
Black - Trilogy, JMANS car, washed and covered and never driven like Blue
Black - Whipple, driven hard and put away dirty, needs a detail and a 2 speed powerglide
Silver - ProCharged, this car and myself have an understanding, I am gonna burn it to the ground!

[Spectragod]

Sadly its up to 5 since I made my signature last...

Blue - NA, doesn't leave the house from what I know...
Brown - Trilogy, daily but its been stolen by some kid
Black - Trilogy, JMANS car, washed and covered and never driven like Blue
Black - Whipple, driven hard and put away dirty, needs a detail and a 2 speed powerglide
Silver - ProCharged, this car and myself have an understanding, I am gonna burn it to the ground!

I'm sorry, I forgot about JMans, since it got bought, shoved in the garage and covered...... black Marauder lives matter!!!

[Limited360]

Install / test fit / aiming coming soon. Pricing shortly after. 6-8 week lead time...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/23/ab3ad0b40c749b02e7a4ca27e0f476 13.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/23/29b2f122a2448ec53e05322fc71b12 67.jpg


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