Rare Fox body Mustang

[Joe Walsh]

It's time to sell my 1984 Mustang GT Turbo Convertible.

I bought it back in 1994 from the original owner.
He had kept it outside and the original Ford Silver (non clear coated) paint had already faded to primer grey.

I know now that I will never have the time, money and patience to restore it.

The car is VERY rare....one of the rarest Fox body Mustangs ever made.

2.3L Turbo I4 (non-intercooled, it is NOT an SVO)
5 speed manual
A/C

But....How does one figure a realistic value for the car?
Is there anyone/forum/site that could help me with pricing the car fairly?

As stated, it will need a new paint job.
The rear window leaks so the convertible top will need to be replaced.
Engine runs fine, and I have the original rims as well.
I pulled most of the interior out, as well as the faded carpet; it's all stored in my basement.

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What the OEM rims look like:

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[Turbov6Bryan]

Clean it up a bunch, install the interior parts and try to sell the car as a running driving car

I'd start at 3800.00 and keep the car clean, when you have someone come look at the car, pull it out of the garage and pass it off like you've been caring for your baby since you bought it

[Ourobos]

I've had 150 fox bodies.. Rarity wise for the 84 2.3Ts is the GT350 due to the lawsuit from Carroll Shelby over Ford's use of the name. If it was one of those in comparable condition, 3-4k IMHO. This is a fairly rare one also no doubt. Running and together I'd put it 2k-3k, possibly more if you can find someone looking for one. www.foureyedpride.com (http://www.foureyedpride.com) is a good resource to investigate as well.

I have a super rare one I've just started to market myself, an 86 t-top coupe.. You don't see many of these at all.

[Mr. Man]

I had an 88 T-top GT. Wish I still had it.

[TooManyFords]

As I am just finishing up the restoration of my 90 7-Up Vert (pictures on facebook), I can tell you that I've got 4K+ just in the interior alone. New carpet, seat foam, leather seat covers, console, trim, door panels and top. I have to believe yours is more rare than mine at this point, so finish installing everything and ask 7500+.

But if you do only want $1500, give me a call and I'll swing by and pick it up as-is. :D

(facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnnymarauder)

[Joe Walsh]

As I am just finishing up the restoration of my 90 7-Up Vert (pictures on facebook), I can tell you that I've got 4K+ just in the interior alone. New carpet, seat foam, leather seat covers, console, trim, door panels and top. I have to believe yours is more rare than mine at this point, so finish installing everything and ask 7500+.

But if you do only want $1500, give me a call and I'll swing by and pick it up as-is. :D

(facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnnymarauder)

Yep....That's the problem.
I'm looking at a BUNCH of coin for the paint job....then the convertible top....then the interior*.
I'd rather put that money into a 2016 Mustang GT...or a Coyote swap....:D


Found these production numbers on StangNet:

1984 Total Model Production Numbers:

LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 7,643
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 1,395 (448 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 29,142

GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 731

GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 3,241
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 4,507


1984 Color Production Numbers

35 Light Academy Blue
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 276
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 64
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 102
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 1
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): N/A
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

1C Black
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,135
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 214
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 6,471
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 99
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 654
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,446

1E Silver
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 517
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 67
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,048
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 93
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 433
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 976

2A Medium Canyon Red
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 652
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 50
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,061
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 92
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 381
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,021

2E Light Canyon Red
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,190
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 61
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,636
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 128
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 408
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

5C Dark Academy Blue
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 246
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 123
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 168
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): N/A
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): N/A
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

8Q Light Desert Tan
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 79
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 13
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 519
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 12
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 57
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

9C Bright Copper
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 73
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 18
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 840
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 19
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 108
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

9L Oxford White
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 2,608
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 181
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 7,135
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 198
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 731
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1

9N Desert Tan Poly
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 32
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 33
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 64
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): N/A
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): N/A
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

9W Dark Charcoal
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 835
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 123
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 4,098
GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 89
GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 469
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,063

731 total produced....1 of 93 Silver GT Turbo Convertibles built.

*the interior isn't bad at all....mainly needs a new carpet and front seat covers. Amazingly, the dash pad is in great shape!

[Turbov6Bryan]

Production number probably won't mean squat to most potential buyers.

You could easily price that car out of 99% of buyers if you set the price to rarity

I don't suggest you paint the car or fix the top, you will never recoup that money , just clean up what you have, fix all the bulbs, put a new battery in it and sell it as a running driving car.

Most project car buyers want either a body project, or mechanical project. Selling it as a running driving car that everything works will greatly improve your sellers bargaining chips

Good luck with the sale :)

[Mr. Man]

Keep it, and fix it up in retirement. It will keep you out of MA's hair.;)

[kirk]

Production number probably won't mean squat to most potential buyers.

You could easily price that car out of 99% of buyers if you set the price to rarity


Agreed

and

Pricing it to rarity will probably mean a no sale. Rare doesn't mean valuable. There has to be a market. Like I say, the 406/427 Mercs are super rare because nobody wanted them when they were new ..... and that hasn't changed much. I'm thinking this turbo 4 GT fits into the same category (though I must say I LOVE the car and would deal with you if I had the space, time, and money).

Put a price on it that will satisfy YOU. If if it doesn't sell, hang on to it for something to do in your old age. Who knows, there may be a demand for it now, and if not now, maybe later on.

[chief455]

Agreed

and

Pricing it to rarity will probably mean a no sale. Rare doesn't mean valuable. There has to be a market. Like I say, the 406/427 Mercs are super rare because nobody wanted them when they were new ..... and that hasn't changed much. I'm thinking this turbo 4 GT fits into the same category (though I must say I LOVE the car and would deal with you if I had the space, time, and money).

Put a price on it that will satisfy YOU. If if it doesn't sell, hang on to it for something to do in your old age. Who knows, there may be a demand for it now, and if not now, maybe later on.

Agreed as well on the rare does not = value for oddball, non traditional powered/optioned cars, like this.
This type of rare means the buyer with cash will be rare too.
good luck how ever it plays out Joe.
I'd want the cash for a Coyote car instead, myself :D

[Joe Walsh]

I did some more research and found this guide:

http://www.nadaguides.com/classic-cars/1984/ford/mustang-gt/turbo-2-door-convertible/Values

Looks like low retail is @ $4,350

I'm advertising it for $4,000 OBO.

Getting this car prepped and painted is the killer for me.
I'm not investing thousands of dollars into a $4k car.

If anyone paints cars, or has access to a good inexpensive painter (is that even possible?) this is a great car and a very good deal for you.

I'm going to post it on FourEyedPride as well.

[Mr. Man]

I did some more research and found this guide:

http://www.nadaguides.com/classic-cars/1984/ford/mustang-gt/turbo-2-door-convertible/Values

Looks like low retail is @ $4,350

I'm advertising it for $4,000 OBO.

Getting this car prepped and painted is the killer for me.
I'm not investing thousands of dollars into a $4k car.

If anyone paints cars, or has access to a good inexpensive painter (is that even possible?) this is a great car and a very good deal for you.

I'm going to post it on FourEyedPride as well.
Have it painted by the HS vo-tech kids. Some of them are really talented and it may just cost you the paint. Might be worth checking into.

[Turbov6Bryan]

Let us know how the sale goes, I'm sure there's someone who just has to have it!
:)

[jsignorelli]

In the $ 4000 range sounds about right. A friend in my Mustang Club just sold his White 1985 SVO Hatch for $ 9500. It was an MCA Gold Award winner. The car was perfect. At the Ohio show this year, it won another award for perfection... his 10th at an MCA national show.
Your GT needs detailing and some work, so $ 4000+ is a fair market price.

(I'm a National MCA Judge for Fox Bodies from 1985-1993).

[Joe Walsh]

After waffling on my '84 Mustang GT Turbo Vert...I think that I am going to keep it and 'Resto-mod' it with a new 2.3L EcoBoost engine.
Not sure if I will go with a 6 speed manual or a 10 speed automatic.
I'm leaning towards the 10 speed....it'll keep the Turbo 4 on 'full boil' better than a 6 speed manual.
This means that I will be selling the Turbo 4 cylinder engine parts that I had bought back in the early 2000s.....
just before I fell in love with, bought, and started modding, a 2003 Mercury Marauder....:D

I am going to sell the following:

2.3L '88 Turbo T-Bird block
Ported Aluminum Esslinger 'D' port Cylinder head
Garrett GT30 ball bearing turbo
Custom stainless steel Exhaust header
NIB 2.5L Ranger crank
Wiseco, skirt & crown Calico coated, forged pistons
Crower 5.7" forged rods
Calico coated bearings
Esslinger billet aluminum water pump
Gutted, ported, port matched and rotated 90 degree Turbo T-Bird intake manifold.

Will need to pick a roller cam and followers, plus injectors and an Intercooler set-up.

(I have an OEM Turbo T-bird intercooler)
Plus more parts that I can't even remember.....

Anyone into the old 'Pinto' motor 2.3L FORD engines...?
This set-up will make and easy 400+ HP.

[PHHHHTT]

I have a '76 Pinto Wagon with auto trans that needs an engine......

[Mr. Man]

I have a '76 Pinto Wagon with auto trans that needs an engine......With the red, white, and blue badge? Only year to have that. Bi-centennial edition.


Still get a chuckle from the scene in Top Secret the movie with the Pinto.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9GGDOUDLhc

[PHHHHTT]

No, just white with full glass. My brother did have a '76 Maverick Stallion, though.

[TooManyFords]

How much for the Pinto Wagon? (asking for a friend)

[PHHHHTT]

Appreciate your asking, but I'm not ready to let it go yet. I'll let you know if I do.

[bigcowl-imp]

After waffling on my '84 Mustang GT Turbo Vert...I think that I am going to keep it and 'Resto-mod' it with a new 2.3L EcoBoost engine.
Not sure if I will go with a 6 speed manual or a 10 speed automatic.
I'm leaning towards the 10 speed....it'll keep the Turbo 4 on 'full boil' better than a 6 speed manual.
This means that I will be selling the Turbo 4 cylinder engine parts that I had bought back in the early 2000s.....
just before I fell in love with, bought, and started modding, a 2003 Mercury Marauder....:D

I am going to sell the following:

2.3L '88 Turbo T-Bird block
Ported Aluminum Esslinger 'D' port Cylinder head
Garrett GT30 ball bearing turbo
Custom stainless steel Exhaust header
NIB 2.5L Ranger crank
Wiseco, skirt & crown Calico coated, forged pistons
Crower 5.7" forged rods
Calico coated bearings
Esslinger billet aluminum water pump
Gutted, ported, port matched and rotated 90 degree Turbo T-Bird intake manifold.

Will need to pick a roller cam and followers, plus injectors and an Intercooler set-up.

(I have an OEM Turbo T-bird intercooler)
Plus more parts that I can't even remember.....

Anyone into the old 'Pinto' motor 2.3L FORD engines...?
This set-up will make and easy 400+ HP.

Your doing it wrong...:P... Ls would be less then a 3rd of the price.....faster on motor with a camshaft and valve springs.....parts are inexpensive ..........way lighter and smaller.......way easier to work on....:P

[Spectragod]

Your doing it wrong...:P... Ls would be less then a 3rd of the price.....faster on motor with a camshaft and valve springs.....parts are inexpensive ..........way lighter and smaller.......way easier to work on....:P


^^^THIS^^^ I had numerous hopped up Pinto's back in the day, it took a lot of $$$ to make power, V8 was the answer.

[Joe Walsh]

Your doing it wrong...:P... Ls would be less then a 3rd of the price.....faster on motor with a camshaft and valve springs.....parts are inexpensive ..........way lighter and smaller.......way easier to work on....:P


^^^THIS^^^ I had numerous hopped up Pinto's back in the day, it took a lot of $$$ to make power, V8 was the answer.

That's why I'm selling all the 2.3L 'Pinto' stuff.....too much work.
A junkyard 2.3L Ecoboost, not a junkyard LS, is the answer!

When my brother and I were building our ERA Cobra, an LS motor would have been the cheapest solution.......
but who would want to drive a '427 Cobra' with a Chevy smallblock in it? :puke:

We did it really right with an all aluminum Shelby block & heads, solid lifter 427 FE FORD big block.
(With a stroker crank to make the FE 468 cubes...heh heh heh...:D)
Makes the 2,400 lb Cobra move at warp speed!

Cheapest way to go....? Heck NO!
The least expensive way to mod a car is seldom a major factor for my projects.

'85 Mustang GT will get a Gen 3 Coyote swap.

You guys know how to get me riled up by suggesting Chevy LS motors...lol

[stevengerard]

After waffling on my '84 Mustang GT Turbo Vert...


For three years :D

[Joe Walsh]

For three years :D

Yep ...I finally realized that Fox Mustangs don't bring diddly squat if you sell them.
For the measly $3,500 +/- I'd get selling it...it'll stay in my garage.

My brother just sold his super clean 1984 GT350 5.0 T-Top Mustang on eBay....managed to get $7,000 for it.

[bigcowl-imp]

never mind....lol

[Mr. Man]

That's why I'm selling all the 2.3L 'Pinto' stuff.....too much work.
A junkyard 2.3L Ecoboost, not a junkyard LS, is the answer!

When my brother and I were building our ERA Cobra, an LS motor would have been the cheapest solution.......
but who would want to drive a '427 Cobra' with a Chevy smallblock in it? :puke:

We did it really right with an all aluminum Shelby block & heads, solid lifter 427 FE FORD big block.
(With a stroker crank to make the FE 468 cubes...heh heh heh...:D)
Makes the 2,400 lb Cobra move at warp speed!

Cheapest way to go....? Heck NO!
The least expensive way to mod a car is seldom a major factor for my projects.

'85 Mustang GT will get a Gen 3 Coyote swap.

You guys know how to get me riled up by suggesting Chevy LS motors...lolThis sounds like code for V-TEC :D

[sflrainmaker01]

Yep ...I finally realized that Fox Mustangs don't bring diddly squat if you sell them.
For the measly $3,500 +/- I'd get selling it...it'll stay in my garage.

My brother just sold his super clean 1984 GT350 5.0 T-Top Mustang on eBay....managed to get $7,000 for it.

Hey Joe, I feel ya! I just had a guy at work who's been "trying" to buy (or should I say "steal") my 1986 GT vert. Right now it's a solid 7 to 8 foot car sporting its original paint (rock chips etc) and original leather interior (driver quality but has a couple cracks in drivers seat and dash). Everything else is new (powertrain, suspension, gas tank, brakes, trans, clutch, rear, exhaust, top etc). He was pissed that I wouldn't take $4k. You know what? Registered and insured as an antique now, it's cheaper to drop the top and enjoy it rather than give this thing away after all the work over the last 18 years I have owned it.

[sspmustang]

That is a rare car. I've owned a number of fox bodies (currently have an '86 SSP coupe) and I think you'll find the values have been rising on these, especially on some of the rarer versions such as yours.



I would avoid the temptation to resto-mod it, and just hang onto it as-as-is if you can.