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Mr. Man
10-04-2015, 06:21 PM
Was poking about shock companies and noted Sachs(Super Touring line) has a listing for the Marauder. Same part #'s as the CVPI. If I recall the Marauder set up is the same or similar to the CVPI. Has anyone tried their shocks and struts? What are your thoughts vs. stock, or any of the other commonly used brands?
babbage
10-04-2015, 06:31 PM
I have the Sachs super touring on the rear. (German made part) So I thought they were good quality. So far so good, had them on for 2 years+ now.
Mr. Man
10-04-2015, 06:34 PM
I have the Sachs super touring on the rear. (German made part) So I thought they were good quality. So far so good, had them on for 2 years+ now.Any noticeable differences between the Tokico's? Good, bad or otherwise.
babbage
10-05-2015, 04:07 PM
I think they handle pretty well I haven't had any negative side effects. I do have the heinous billet control arms. also at the time I installed a complete front end and did raise the rear airbags just a bit so that it that would still have a decent rake.

i'm getting a little bit a bump steer in from the front now so I think my front shocks are toast - sachs in the rear are still good
ctrlraven
10-06-2015, 06:05 AM
I need front struts as well, Amazon has them for $96 each. P/N 030094

I may go with something that has the strut and spring already assembled, would make it easier for replacement.
fastblackmerc
10-06-2015, 07:10 AM
I need front struts as well, Amazon has them for $96 each. P/N 030094

I may go with something that has the strut and spring already assembled, would make it easier for replacement.

RockAuto has FCS 1336343 for $69.79 each. I think you can still get an additional 5% off.
ledzilla
10-06-2015, 08:17 AM
RockAuto has FCS 1336343 for $69.79 each. I think you can still get an additional 5% off.

IIRC, the FCS assembly listed on RockAuto for the Marauder is the same they have listed for the CV (amongst others). I thought about that one, but wasn't sure how well it performed on a Marauder. As it is, I want new springs since the ones installed in my front have it all jacked up (the originals rusted and fractured requiring replacements, maybe 6-7 years ago).
ctrlraven
10-06-2015, 09:29 AM
RockAuto has FCS 1336343 for $69.79 each. I think you can still get an additional 5% off.
Awesome, thanks for pointing that one out!
Mr. Man
10-06-2015, 09:48 AM
RockAuto has FCS 1336343 for $69.79 each. I think you can still get an additional 5% off.
Who is FCS?

And, just for future note are the Marauder struts and shocks the same or very close to the CVPI?
ctrlraven
10-06-2015, 10:03 AM
Who is FCS?

And, just for future note are the Marauder struts and shocks the same or very close to the CVPI?
From what I remember the struts/springs are from the CVPI.
Mr. Man
10-06-2015, 10:06 AM
From what I remember the struts/springs are from the CVPI.
Is there a source to find out what the official rates are for the shocks and struts? I've seen all sorts of ranges here over the years. Does the repair manual say anything? :)
ctrlraven
10-06-2015, 01:42 PM
Is there a source to find out what the official rates are for the shocks and struts? I've seen all sorts of ranges here over the years. Does the repair manual say anything? :)

RATES
Grand Marquis/Crown Vic Spring Rates
Front: 253lb
Rear: 130lb
Air Springs: 89-102lb

Crown Vic P71 Spring Rates
Front: 330lb
Rear: 160lb

Marauder
Front: 330lb
Rear: None
Air Springs: 89-102lb
Mr. Man
10-06-2015, 03:19 PM
RATES
Grand Marquis/Crown Vic Spring Rates
Front: 253lb
Rear: 130lb
Air Springs: 89-102lb

Crown Vic P71 Spring Rates
Front: 330lb
Rear: 160lb

Marauder
Front: 330lb
Rear: None
Air Springs: 89-102lbThanks Chris, cop suspension it is.
lifespeed
10-06-2015, 05:36 PM
CVPI springs are taller. Springs and shocks (among other parts) were unique to Marauders when they were built. Now they list Crown Vic parts for Marauders.
Mr. Man
10-06-2015, 05:53 PM
CVPI springs are taller. Springs and shocks (among other parts) were unique to Marauders when they were built. Now they list Crown Vic parts for Marauders.Was at first thinking the Sachs strut came with the spring as they go on and on on their website about saving the mechanic time during replacement. Looking at a few other websites as to were to buy them it looks like the strut comes w/o a spring. If it doe not come with a spring would there be any issue using the old one?
fastblackmerc
10-06-2015, 07:11 PM
Was at first thinking the Sachs strut came with the spring as they go on and on on their website about saving the mechanic time during replacement. Looking at a few other websites as to were to buy them it looks like the strut comes w/o a spring. If it doe not come with a spring would there be any issue using the old one?

No problem unless your springs are worn out. It would suck to use the old springs and have only a marginally better ride.
1Marauder
10-06-2015, 08:00 PM
Buy the cvpi and cut 1/2 to 1 coil. Use KYB or other shock.
chief455
10-06-2015, 08:18 PM
No problem unless your springs are worn out. It would suck to use the old springs and have only a marginally better ride.
I bought my car with old springs cut 1 coil and newer shocks - 1st thing I changed!
However, I did not cut the new Moog springs, and it sits to high. Rides much better though ;)