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1Marauder
11-02-2015, 12:52 PM
Have a rented (free upgrade - not big dogging) NEW CADDILAC for the week... And the new LED lighting is absolutely SICK!

I will take some photos tonight to share, but I can now understand what/why you've all been doing/trying to upgrade the lighting now.

I know I am slow, perhaps even last in this endeavor -- but after seeing what is new and fresh... Dang it is time!

The door handle lighting is so sick!

fastblackmerc
11-02-2015, 01:04 PM
Have a rented (free upgrade - not big dogging) NEW CADDILAC for the week... And the new LED lighting is absolutely SICK!

I will take some photos tonight to share, but I can now understand what/why you've all been doing/trying to upgrade the lighting now.

I know I am slow, perhaps even last in this endeavor -- but after seeing what is new and fresh... Dang it is time!

The door handle lighting is so sick!

I can send you a kit to light up the inside door handles on your MM.

Fastbob
11-02-2015, 04:15 PM
Our new 2014 Lincoln MKZ has all LEDs and LED headlights. The headlights are awesome!

1Marauder
11-02-2015, 09:34 PM
All of the lights are awesome. They outer skin of the door handle lights up/glows on this new Caddy.

Usually I don't go for this kind of thing (something else to go out-bad-wrong), but then realized lighting platform in simply cool. Just getting dark here in Maui. Will take some pics and attach while y'all are in bed.

1Marauder
11-02-2015, 09:36 PM
I can send you a kit to light up the inside door handles on your MM.


If I do this I will want to do them all!!!

chief455
11-02-2015, 09:44 PM
If I do this I will want to do them all!!!

George W. Bush: "Just do it!"

fastblackmerc
11-03-2015, 05:44 AM
If I do this I will want to do them all!!!

All four doors (inside). Single color - green, red or blue.

lji372
11-03-2015, 05:48 AM
Led's ftw

James will be doing whipple car this weekend.

And HID projectors coming soon!! :woohoo:

MOTOWN
11-03-2015, 05:59 AM
LEDs are the only way to go, I'll be doing the headlights, and fogs soon , HIDs cannot compare to LEDs.

eric jones
11-03-2015, 09:38 AM
I have the led headlights from superbrightleds.com and they are much better than the hid's I had. The hid's would shake when you hit a bump in the road and that was very annoying to me.

lji372
11-03-2015, 09:58 AM
LEDs are the only way to go, I'll be doing the headlights, and fogs soon , HIDs cannot compare to LEDs.

it's my understanding hid's outperform led in rain no?

Limited360
11-03-2015, 10:10 AM
it's my understanding hid's outperform led in rain no?

This is how it works...

1) HID Projector
2) LED Reflector
3) HID Reflector
4) Halogen Reflector

Stop guessing at true lumens output and visit HIDPLANET already.

http://www.kchilites.com/technology

See above link and view light output... HID wins once again.

Also with an LED being a 'single' spectrum you will not get the added benefit of HID / Halogen having a variable spectrum of output with a peak at the color of your choosing.

Also OEM LED can not be compared to an aftermarket LED plug in bulb. The housings are specifically designed for the LED on the FORD products, they will have a heat sink on the back of the LED chip and it is also not in the center like the design of a halogen bulb.

Keep in mind whenever I mention HID I am talking a proper HID retrofit...

Limited360
11-03-2015, 10:11 AM
Led's ftw

James will be doing whipple car this weekend.

And HID projectors coming soon!! :woohoo:

Indeed I will be, all new style LED's, revised chipsets, increased output... and all in pure white!

Limited360
11-03-2015, 10:16 AM
Just some teaser pics from work yesterday. This will be a fixtured and machines bracket... Perfect alignment unless your car is jacked up that is ;)



http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/de60d485160177406b5cdbc47f0b7b e8.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/88819b0ea4fcfff8ca38a9af6ef927 0b.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/97c2ae5585c0ab48183fb7525a6aef f9.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/5786d33538a226b500897f511d5052 d0.jpg

Some new reverse bulbs... The final shot is with lights on in basement where I am working, however that's a single LED reverse bulb lighting the basement up


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/7c70c36d9f29a1bc7bb3307e824dbf d6.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/7ae863a86a212f0d34b6d979649223 3f.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/2c17317d08780a8eee181d3a9afcbd 99.jpg




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RubberCtyRauder
11-03-2015, 10:32 AM
I'm ready for headights whenever..just need to pull them from car.

Limited360
11-03-2015, 10:37 AM
I'm ready for headights whenever..just need to pull them from car.

This prep work with LJI372 is to ensure a seemless retrofit for all parties involved :)

MOTOWN
11-03-2015, 10:47 AM
This is how it works...

1) HID Projector
2) LED Reflector
3) HID Reflector
4) Halogen Reflector

Stop guessing at true lumens output and visit HIDPLANET already.

http://www.kchilites.com/technology

See above link and view light output... HID wins once again.

Also with an LED being a 'single' spectrum you will not get the added benefit of HID / Halogen having a variable spectrum of output with a peak at the color of your choosing.

Also OEM LED can not be compared to an aftermarket LED plug in bulb. The housings are specifically designed for the LED on the FORD products, they will have a heat sink on the back of the LED chip and it is also not in the center like the design of a halogen bulb.

Keep in mind whenever I mention HID I am talking a proper HID retrofit...


Say what you want, but LEDs are leaps and bounds better than hids , there's really no comparison, hids are old school tech at this point.

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-03-2015, 10:48 AM
Can't wait to do the projectors in my MM. Will be nearly complete, will just need to come up with some LED for the tail lights.

Limited360
11-03-2015, 10:52 AM
Can't wait to do the projectors in my MM. Will be nearly complete, will just need to come up with some LED for the tail lights.


Brake lights? Can offer LED's with plug and play resistors. PM me


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Limited360
11-03-2015, 10:54 AM
Say what you want, but LEDs are leaps and bounds better than hids , there's really no comparison, hids are old school tech at this point.


Please park a HID projector setup next to a LED reflector setup and show the proof.

LJI372's retrofit will blow away any other Marauder for light output.


Phuq it... LJI372.... I'm going to order an LED drop in set we can put in Silver and we will park it side by side with your 50w morimito Mini D2S retrofit on trilogy and show people what's up.


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GoldPanther
11-03-2015, 10:58 AM
Guys, LEDs or HIDs don't forget to add an external relay harness to your project or you will make that 10A amp internal relay suffer the consequences. (LCM premature failure)

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-03-2015, 11:02 AM
Brake lights? Can offer LED's with plug and play resistors. PM me


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I want something a little nicer. Too bad we can't crack open the tail lamps like our headlights because they are plastic welded..

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-03-2015, 11:05 AM
Please park a HID projector setup next to a LED reflector setup and show the proof.

LJI372's retrofit will blow away any other Marauder for light output.


Phuq it... LJI372.... I'm going to order an LED drop in set we can put in Silver and we will park it side by side with your 50w morimito Mini D2S retrofit on trilogy and show people what's up.


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Unless you have a bifocal LEDs specific projector array setup, they will not be better than HID. The lack of heat dissipation on a drop in LED bulb which would be bright enough to use as a headlamp would have a short life span. IMO nothing better than a projector HID retrofit... until someone retrofits an LED lamp setup from another vehicle and makes it look good in the MM housing.

Limited360
11-03-2015, 11:08 AM
Unless you have a bifocal LEDs specific projector array setup, they will not be better than HID. The lack of heat dissipation on a drop in LED bulb which would be bright enough to use as a headlamp would have a short life span. IMO nothing better than a projector HID retrofit... until someone retrofits an LED lamp setup from another vehicle and makes it look good in the MM housing.

Precise feedback I like. You nailed the issues with what people are comparing, no drop in LED can be compared to an OEM LED setup.

In the works....

Corolla LED projector setup... I'd love to do an Acura RDX but that won't fit in the housings.


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ChiTownMaraud3r
11-03-2015, 11:10 AM
Precise feedback I like. You nailed the issues with what people are comparing, no drop in LED can be compared to an OEM LED setup.

In the works....

Corolla LED projector setup... I'd love to do an Acura RDX but that won't fit in the housings.


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Yup Same here!!

MOTOWN
11-03-2015, 11:14 AM
Precise feedback I like. You nailed the issues with what people are comparing, no drop in LED can be compared to an OEM LED setup.

In the works....

Corolla LED projector setup... I'd love to do an Acura RDX but that won't fit in the housings.


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This is the equivalent of Bench racing! Lol just a bunch of talking, if you like hids knock your self out!
I'll take LEDs any day of the week, and projecter housings just don't look correct on a Marauder, oem headlights housing look better untouched

Limited360
11-03-2015, 11:24 AM
This is the equivalent of Bench racing! Lol just a bunch of talking, if you like hids knock your self out!

I'll take LEDs any day of the week, and projecter housings just don't look correct on a Marauder, oem headlights housing look better untouched


Here is the problem...

You are bench racing... I have seen side by side in person and researched on the topics. Also there are plenty of forums with measurements of lumens from aftermarket HID. Nothing touches a proper HID setup.

LED plug and play is a cheaper form of upgrade over halogen stock bulbs versus HID retrofit, it's not the best output.

If you don't like the look that is fine... But I assure you NO ONE likes the glare any reflector housing gives off with an aftermarket LED or HID plug and play option in a OEM halogen reflector housing.


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MOTOWN
11-03-2015, 11:28 AM
Here is the problem...

You are bench racing... I have seen side by side in person and researched on the topics. Also there are plenty of forums with measurements of lumens from aftermarket HID. Nothing touches a proper HID setup.

LED plug and play is a cheaper form of upgrade over halogen stock bulbs versus HID retrofit, it's not the best output.

If you don't like the look that is fine... But I assure you NO ONE likes the glare any reflector housing gives off with an aftermarket LED or HID plug and play option in a OEM halogen reflector housing.


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Clearly we disagree on this subject, it doesn't require a case study to figure out LEDs are better, use less power , turn on instantly, emits a better looking light, and will out last hids , but stick with your hids , enjoy!

fastblackmerc
11-03-2015, 12:00 PM
Good info on HID vs LED

http://www.halcyon.net/en/the-halcyon-brand/frequently-asked-questions/lighting-system/what-is-the-difference-between-hid-and-led-lighting

http://www.kchilites.com/technology

Coming soon!!!!!!!!! Laser Headlights!!!!!!

http://www.caradvice.com.au/278125/headlights-explained-halogen-v-hid-v-led-v-laser/

1Marauder
11-03-2015, 01:05 PM
Ok, so like the big break -sweep area discussion, I am obviously far far behind the group.

Rest assured though I am enroute to catching up. My infinity M35S Tech, had HID's that turned left and right 3/8 inch or more when the car turned, and that was super cool when driving in dark mountains etc. It also had what I called "grampers lights" that lit the forward corner/side when you used the blinker (who does that anymore?) It also had led spot type lights in overhead that lit up the cup holder consol area (only-no light wash) from above.

Until that car went back on lease, I didn't realize how cool all of these were.

Here is a 3/4 of the new Caddie XTS.

Note these are the convenience lights that stay on when you unlock car from fob, or lock car to exit.

1Marauder
11-03-2015, 01:06 PM
Here is the side view, in not too dark area

1Marauder
11-03-2015, 01:07 PM
And here is the door handle I am now infatuated with.

1Marauder
11-03-2015, 01:13 PM
I will shoot dark photo tonight, with tail lights etc.

My point is/was this when I started the thread. Every X years, items take what I call a quantum leap in quality, reliability, use, integration, etc. it doesn't happen all at once, but rather, step by step, new applications one at a time.

It simply seems like the lighting has made that "leap" and I now understand, can see, and can visualize the dramatic epic difference.

The lighting alone on this caddy is simply cool.

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-03-2015, 03:29 PM
Clearly we disagree on this subject, it doesn't require a case study to figure out LEDs are better, use less power , turn on instantly, emits a better looking light, and will out last hids , but stick with your hids , enjoy!

Doesn't require it because there are so many case studies already on the subject. An LED bulb is only as good as it's housing as it is very directional, and the lifespan only as good as its heat dissipation.

You can make HID projectors look very factory with minimal bling, there's even square shrouds out now.

Limited360
11-03-2015, 05:55 PM
Doesn't require it because there are so many case studies already on the subject. An LED bulb is only as good as it's housing as it is very directional, and the lifespan only as good as its heat dissipation.



You can make HID projectors look very factory with minimal bling, there's even square shrouds out now.


Looks stock enough to me

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/326ca0471c6504ddc161e6086d7ab8 f2.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/45f8a4bdf57c3ae7bbecb2131f47d0 ad.jpg

This look OEM to me...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/914cd5a3f6dde84686755f6e422986 c5.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/031ccfee447a4f33f446b4e6c8887f ba.jpg


heat dissipation and they are very directional.... I like you. :)


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Limited360
11-03-2015, 05:57 PM
Ok, so like the big break -sweep area discussion, I am obviously far far behind the group.

Rest assured though I am enroute to catching up. My infinity M35S Tech, had HID's that turned left and right 3/8 inch or more when the car turned, and that was super cool when driving in dark mountains etc. It also had what I called "grampers lights" that lit the forward corner/side when you used the blinker (who does that anymore?) It also had led spot type lights in overhead that lit up the cup holder consol area (only-no light wash) from above.

Until that car went back on lease, I didn't realize how cool all of these were.

Here is a 3/4 of the new Caddie XTS.

Note these are the convenience lights that stay on when you unlock car from fob, or lock car to exit.


I almost bought an XTS myself... Settled on this though... I do like the accent lighting. Handles are a bit much for me, but it's cool tech that I do like as well.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/36e9932a03ed475bbd247d915a70dc 97.jpg


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GoldPanther
11-03-2015, 08:30 PM
No LED can be compared so far with a genuine HID (not cheap stuff like xentec) in output lighting.
An LED replacement bulb in a halogen housing will not project the proper lighting to the floor. An HID kit in a halogen housing is cancer for pupils we all know that!

The only and best way to archive the best lighting experience on the road will be using an HID intended projector with a genuine brand HID kit.

Limited360
11-03-2015, 08:46 PM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/f841170caf0c3a1665d7642e229a19 d1.jpg

Retrofits. :) cutoff is great. Beam is even.


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Spectragod
11-04-2015, 04:43 PM
I don't know James, I have led's on my truck, and it has own hid's as well,
And, the led's outperform the hid's hands down.......:D ;)

I'll try and get you a shot of them..:beer:

lji372
11-04-2015, 05:14 PM
I don't know James, I have led's on my truck, and it has own hid's as well,
And, the led's outperform the hid's hands down.......:D ;)

I'll try and get you a shot of them..:beer:

Bwhahaha

Led light bars ftmfw!!!!!!

burt ragio
11-04-2015, 05:56 PM
Nice Buick Verano. I have been test driving cars. The Verano has the best ride & handling along with the quietest cabin of any car I have driven.

Spectragod
11-04-2015, 06:24 PM
Here ya go James.......

My backup lights.....

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=1537

My front lights, with HID headlights, see, LED's are brighter....:P

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=1538

Limited360
11-05-2015, 05:44 AM
Here ya go James.......

My backup lights.....

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=1537

My front lights, with HID headlights, see, LED's are brighter....:P

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=1538

Need more photo action here....

You have $1000+ in light bars... Those don't compare to drop in LED bulbs ;). Also you should know more than anyone... stock F150 HID's sucks.... RAPTOR Retrofits is so popular for that reason. Lucky for you I happen to know someone whom could do that retrofit for cheaper.... ;)

Limited360
11-05-2015, 05:45 AM
Nice Buick Verano. I have been test driving cars. The Verano has the best ride & handling along with the quietest cabin of any car I have driven.

Its a Regal GS... but yeah it is quiet and rides nice. Just did a trip from Detroit to South Carolina and back.... loved it.

Coryg
12-01-2015, 05:12 AM
Looks stock enough to me

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/326ca0471c6504ddc161e6086d7ab8 f2.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/45f8a4bdf57c3ae7bbecb2131f47d0 ad.jpg

This look OEM to me...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/914cd5a3f6dde84686755f6e422986 c5.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/03/031ccfee447a4f33f446b4e6c8887f ba.jpg


heat dissipation and they are very directional.... I like you. :)


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What kind of vehicle are those projectors out of?

Guittard22
12-01-2015, 07:25 AM
Here ya go James.......

My backup lights.....

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=1537

My front lights, with HID headlights, see, LED's are brighter....:P

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=1538



There anything you don't have - a raptor Svt - sweet - looks bad ass

Spectragod
12-01-2015, 07:54 AM
There anything you don't have - a raptor Svt - sweet - looks bad ass

Well, there are a few things I don't have...... I don't have any LED's on my F350........ Yet..