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    Quote Originally Posted by 376shovel View Post
    Sorry brother didn't think about it. I will be going again later this year I'm sure.......
    Just kidding. All good.

    We should try to plan an Atco event this Spring/Summer.

    I know that jimbok1951 is in.

    Have you seen this thread?

    http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forum...d.php?t=100236
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    Sounds good to me, I just ordered the parts for the gear change. Looking at going April 15th if possible
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

  3. #18
    14.73 @ 96 isn't horrible, it's a good starting point and can only get better from this point. My first time out I did a 15.00 (left it in 2nd gear after the burnout), then a 14.55 and finally a 14.38, I had a JLT, tune, mufflers and maybe something else, my car seems to slightly be a factory freak with mods done vs times run. 4.10s and a 2800/3000 stall converter (with maybe a slight re-tune) could easily get you down half a second. When I did a 3500 stall, re-tune and 26" tall (255/50-16) drag radials with stock gears (effective 3.89 rear gear) I went from 14.20 to 13.73. Honestly it felt no faster to me and was shocked when I read the time slip.

    Also weight does play a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrlraven View Post
    14.73 @ 96 isn't horrible, it's a good starting point and can only get better from this point. My first time out I did a 15.00 (left it in 2nd gear after the burnout), then a 14.55 and finally a 14.38, I had a JLT, tune, mufflers and maybe something else, my car seems to slightly be a factory freak with mods done vs times run. 4.10s and a 2800/3000 stall converter (with maybe a slight re-tune) could easily get you down half a second. When I did a 3500 stall, re-tune and 26" tall (255/50-16) drag radials with stock gears (effective 3.89 rear gear) I went from 14.20 to 13.73. Honestly it felt no faster to me and was shocked when I read the time slip.

    Also weight does play a factor.
    Yes I know. Fast and slow are both relative terms. I just ordered the parts for the 4.10 gear change. I actually have 255/55/18s which are taller than the factory tire obviously, so my car is even more under geared. No doubt the tight converter and awful gear have this car running a lot slower than optimal. But again this is a daily driver, so it's all a compromise. After the 4.10s I will put headers on the car and that will be it until the trans needs to be rebuilt, at which time I will put a smaller diameter converter in there. Unfortunately I just crossed a supercharger off my list for a while. Any money I spend on this car, ultimately takes away from money I spend on my chevelle. And that needs the seats reupholstered, a soft parts rebuild of the trans among other things, so nothing crazy with the Marauder at this point.

    Will update with new times next month.
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    Update: 4.10s are installed and I've tried to race at the track 3 times since. All three times it's gotten rained out or someone broke and it was delayed so long I had to leave. I haven't gotten a pass in yet, but come October I will be trying again, with the only change being the gears.

    Expect times in Oct timeframe.
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    Quote Originally Posted by 376shovel View Post
    Update: 4.10s are installed and I've tried to race at the track 3 times since. All three times it's gotten rained out or someone broke and it was delayed so long I had to leave. I haven't gotten a pass in yet, but come October I will be trying again, with the only change being the gears.

    Expect times in Oct timeframe.
    Cool
    The best mine could do so far is 13.55 @ 101.86 MPH With Stock Internals/Nitto 555's & 75 Shots NOS
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIRJ1zGhSA
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfRjhiGT4w N/A Sound

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    So Far Best Run 12.84 @106 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA-0vB0HwU

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    Ran again tonight. Kooks headers and 4.10s.


    2.142
    6.079
    9.256
    77.75
    11.994
    14.33 @ 96.82

    Again I figured 14.0-14.1 especially with the cool air. I'm sure the tune is a bit rich for safety's sake, I'll have to get with Marty to ask. I put one degree of timing in it and again it slowed down.

    The car traps much better at 5000+, but you can tell how tight the converter is and how much that's holding it back on the front end. I'm surprised the ba k end didn't pick up much mph at all though. I thought for sure it'd be 98.xx+

    All in all a good night, but didn't pick up as much as I'd like.
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    For comparison I believe Steve aka TripleTransAm has the fastest stock MM @14.56.
    1/4 Mile Time 11.542 @ 121.19 MPH
    195,000 Miles & 275+ Runs Down the 1,320’
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    UPDATE:


    Alright ladies and gents. Grab your scream masks and take a seat for this vent session. This here is a tough pill to swallow for me, but here goes. A while ago I grabbed a whole 2005 aviator engine from a junkyard. I rebuilt it, .020 over, flat tops (10.5:1), 99 cobra intake cams advanced 4 degrees. I also put in a used 3500 converter from a member on this site. Then Marty (who has been awesome) remote tuned the car for me. After all of these upgrades, tonight I ran a whopping 14.249 @ 95.92....




    2.079
    5.941
    9.123 @ 77.24
    11.888
    14.249 @ 95.92


    Again this is with a new NA engine 10.5:1, 99 cobra cams, headers, 3500 converter, 4.10 gears. still in the 14s. the DA tonight was below 0... Only thing I can think of it some sort of restriction in the exhaust? I got two bad cats in a row which broke apart in my exhaust, I wonder if there is some sort of clog in there.


    This timeslip was the first and best run of the night. very sad stuff guys. here is a video of my piece of shlt car that I just may get mad enough to sell. Yay.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS_ZCWzqJQI
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    Quote Originally Posted by 376shovel View Post
    Marty I priced based on the parts available on the forum, and eBay. Also accounting for selling my k&n intake, the upper/lower intake, throttle body, injectors etc for a couple hundred bucks to offset. What big costs am I missing?
    Unless you're doing it yourself, labor. Tuner and tune also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justgod View Post
    Unless you're doing it yourself, labor. Tuner and tune also.
    Old conversation, i was just posting with my latest updated track time, so im not tskinf up another thread having to backfill people on past events.
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    Oops! I need more

    I bet you have a clog somewhere in there. What RPM are you leaving on btw?

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    As you, I, and many others have found:
    Getting a 2+ ton car with an automatic to run fast with a 281 CID N/A V8 is a challenge!

    If you pour money into it...AND add some cubes you can run 12s N/A.
    But the smart folks immediately go to forced induction.
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    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
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    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
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    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
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    Quote Originally Posted by justgod View Post
    Oops! I need more

    I bet you have a clog somewhere in there. What RPM are you leaving on btw?
    Leaving anywhere from idle to 1000 rpm. Its not the leave, the car is just down on power. We'll see what happens
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    With that convertor, you should be leaving at a much higher RPM. You'll be in a better torque band to leave on and get that 60ft down a hair.
    Other than that, spark advance and AFR are the only changes if everything else is solid. Ever try manual shifts? It engages the gears a little different inside the trans.

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