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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Walsh View Post
    Actually, I looked at that engine and a 427W stroker that makes 600+ HP... but both are $10,000+ .....
    I can get a 450 HP Coyote, a Tremec Magnum 6 speed, a blow shield, and a Coyote swap parts kit for under $10,000.
    The Coyote will idle smooth as silk, rev to 7,000 RPM and knock down 20+ mpg.
    Plus, I already have a thumping pushrod FE motor!...
    Sounds to me like you really want the Voodoo 5.2l.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Man View Post
    Sounds to me like you really want the Voodoo 5.2l.
    Yes....no doubt!

    The 8,250 RPM howl from under the hood of a Fox-body Mustang would be SWEET!
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Yeah that was bad, Joe. Just not alot of meat there for a big bore.
    ~Chris

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    Hi Chris,
    Did you see that mess of a $7K aluminum coffee table-to-be?
    I'm done with mod motors...unless it's a Coyote 5.0!
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Yeah I saw it. Mod motors are good. Just don't make them 3.70 bores . Get a good rotating assy and throw boost at em.
    ~Chris

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    Yep.... I learned my lesson the hard way....
    Would've been nice if Modular Performance had not talked me into a big bore set-up.
    There's a reason FORD has to 'plasma spray' the bores on the 5.8 modular instead of sleeving it!
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Walsh View Post
    Actually, I looked at that engine and a 427W stroker that makes 600+ HP... but both are $10,000+ .....
    I can get a 450 HP Coyote, a Tremec Magnum 6 speed, a blow shield, and a Coyote swap parts kit for under $10,000.
    The Coyote will idle smooth as silk, rev to 7,000 RPM and knock down 20+ mpg.
    Plus, I already have a thumping pushrod FE motor!...
    I'd love to know where. Probably not manufacturer's suggested retail.

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    IMG_0414.jpgI'm partial to the mid-engine Lincoln Navigator myself.
    Trilogy #146!!! Self-Installed with a little help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpfarrell View Post
    IMG_0414.jpgI'm partial to the mid-engine Lincoln Navigator myself.
    LOL...

    Sweet!

    I see that you too are partial to the 'wood block and red strap' mounting method!
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Full disclosure, mine was only a bone-stock 175 hp "H.O." for an '84 Mustang.

    It's my brother's 165,000 mile convertible and the original engine was down to about 80 pounds of compression. He turned 50 a few years ago, so I got him a replacement 5.0 and then delivered it 600 miles and with the help of my nephew/co-driver we installed it in his driveway. 1200 mile round trip in 58 hours with an engine swap in the middle!

    Lots of "utility" in this big leather and chrome SUV.
    Trilogy #146!!! Self-Installed with a little help!

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    Lloyd just called me with more bad news....

    I took my OEM short block over to the machine shop after I learned that my 5.0L big bore was now a split bore block.
    I knew that I had lost oil pressure while drag racing the OEM 4.6L engine wayyy back in 2004.....but I never really took it apart to figure out WTF was going on.
    I had already ordered the forged big bore 5.0L and didn't really care about the OEM short block. I just stored it in the basement.
    Turns out that I had spun 7 out of 8 bearings! That'll kill your oil pressure....and your engine!!
    Haven't stopped over to see the carnage yet....but Lloyd said that he could get new bearings and recondition the OEM crank & rods.
    Everytime I deal with this car I curse the crappy 4.6L Modular that FORD put into our Marauders!
    They only run with a blower, a forged rotating assembly, and a LOT of boost.
    If only the 5.0L Coyote was around when they designed our Marauders.....
    Last edited by Joe Walsh; 06-07-2017 at 07:38 PM.
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Walsh View Post
    Lloyd just called me with more bad news....

    I took my OEM short block over to the machine shop after I learned that my 5.0L big bore was now a split bore block.
    I knew that I had lost oil pressure while drag racing the OEM 4.6L engine wayyy back in 2004.....but I never really took it apart to figure out WTF was going on.
    I had already ordered the forged big bore 5.0L and didn't really care about the OEM short block. I just stored it in the basement.
    Turns out that I had spun 8 out of 8 bearings! That'll kill your oil pressure....and your engine!!
    Haven't stopped over to see the carnage yet....but Lloyd said that he could get new bearings and recondition the OEM crank & rods.
    Everytime I deal with this car I curse the crappy 4.6L Modular that FORD put into our Marauders!
    They only run with a blower, a forged rotating assembly, and a LOT of boost.
    If only the 5.0L Coyote was around when they designed our Marauders.....
    Man that really sucks Joe, as if things couldn't get worse
    04 twin turbo Marauder custom made by myself 😁
    3800stall freddy Brown 4stbe trans 31 spline rear
    601rwhp 592rwtq @19psi

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    Update:
    Rebuilt 4.6 engine is supposed to be ready this week.
    Will take pictures of all the wasted/ruined parts as a momento to $8,000 spent on modding a Mod motor!
    Will get the DOHC Ranger back under full power!....lol

    Anyone need a set of Manley Cobra connecting rods?
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Picked up the rebuilt OEM 4.6 engine today.



    Also got a good look at the 'big bore' split block.
    My brother is going to turn it into a $7,000 dollar coffee table with a glass top.



    Cylinder sleeves are NOT supposed to be removable by hand!!



    I swear it looks like they bored the cylinders offcenter as the gap between cylinders # 1 & #2 is thinner than the other cylinders....






    You can see where the 'fire' burned through between the adjacent cylinders at the top of the bores.
    That explains why Cylinders 1# and #2 both had low compression.
    Luckily, the heads didn't suffer much and only took a very small amount of surfacing to make them true.

    Based on the way the cylinders look, Lloyd, the machinist, is almost certain that the block split as they sleeved it....or shortly after I fired it up.
    Last edited by Joe Walsh; 06-07-2017 at 05:43 PM.
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Now that my 3.sl0w Ranger has 297,000 miles and is no longer a mid-engine 5.0 DOHC
    I'm continuously reminded of what an absolute DOG this truck is.
    It is gutless... with NO torque and it can't rev!....
    It's so weak that when I turn off the A/C compressor, it feels like a 50 shot of nitrous hit.
    All this and 19 - 20 MPG.....MAX!

    But.... I'm determined to get it over 300K, as this will be the first and only vehicle that I put up with for so long.

    I can no longer order a 2018 F150 2.7L EcoBoost, so I'll wait a few more months and get a 2019 F150.

    More than double the HP
    More than double the torque
    More than double the tranny gears
    Plus at least 5 more MPG
    all while moving an extra 1,000 lbs of full size truck
    ... a whole LOT faster.

    Anybody got the skinny on new updates/changes to the 2019 F150?
    Last edited by Joe Walsh; 08-01-2018 at 02:41 PM.
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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