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Old 06-03-2017, 05:04 PM
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Yes the FPDM was upgraded as well,

Is the 40amp BAP really needed for twins?
It is needed for the 340. It will also work for dual 340s.

I upgraded absolutely every wire in my fuel system, used a 40 amp BAP with the relay power, upgraded FPDM, ran dual GT supercar pumps for awhile but now I have dual 340s. Fuel lines are also seriously upgraded. Still running returnless.
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03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, wife's car, 289k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, 35k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
01 F150
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68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:11 PM
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It is needed for the 340. It will also work for dual 340s.

I upgraded absolutely every wire in my fuel system, used a 40 amp BAP with the relay power, upgraded FPDM, ran dual GT supercar pumps for awhile but now I have dual 340s. Fuel lines are also seriously upgraded. Still running returnless.
How are your fuel lines upgraded? When do you think the factory feed needs it?
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:37 PM
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Each pump has its own PPRV and bulkhead fitting thru the hat. Then each has its own filter (OEM style) and feed into a Y. After the Y it uses a 1/2" hard line up to the heater area. The hard line I used is a vapor recovery line from a junkyard MM. I capped off the factory line and left it in place. In the engine compartment it adapts from the hard line to braided steel line feeding another Y which feeds the aftermarket fuel rails. I didn't want to use braided lines from tank all the way to the front since they are prone to be smelly.
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Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, wife's car, 289k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, 35k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
01 F150
00 F150 4x4
68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:06 PM
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Each pump has its own PPRV and bulkhead fitting thru the hat. Then each has its own filter (OEM style) and feed into a Y. After the Y it uses a 1/2" hard line up to the heater area. The hard line I used is a vapor recovery line from a junkyard MM. I capped off the factory line and left it in place. In the engine compartment it adapts from the hard line to braided steel line feeding another Y which feeds the aftermarket fuel rails. I didn't want to use braided lines from tank all the way to the front since they are prone to be smelly.
Yea that's what I hear about the braided lines. Around what power range would you say it would be necessary to upgrade the fuel feed line?
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Magnaflow oval race mufflers
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KB boost a pump
built 4r70w
3800 stall multi disc converter
4.30 gears
eaton lsd
Yukon 31 apline axles
Metco rear control arms
Naake qa1 coil overs on the front
Racetronix dual catch cans
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What's the benefit of giving each pump it's own PPRV? I just installed dual AEMs, no BAP yet. I'm in need of another modified FPDM.
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:05 PM
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Yea that's what I hear about the braided lines. Around what power range would you say it would be necessary to upgrade the fuel feed line?
Not sure. I used the stock one at about 600 hp. I figured I would need more fuel when I upped the power so I just went anead and did it before I started the 680 hp setup. It has been adequate up to 750hp, might even support 800hp if I decide to change a pulley and up the boost.

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What's the benefit of giving each pump it's own PPRV? I just installed dual AEMs, no BAP yet. I'm in need of another modified FPDM.
I am only running one modified FPDM for both pumps. I was told it wouldn't work, but....

Two thoughts on the PPRV: every component introduces some amount of flow resistance. With the output of both pumps going through a single PPRV, it could be a bottleneck. Also, since my setup has each pump with its own bulkhead fitting through the hat, the best way to ensure the pumps have quick overpressure relief was to have one on each pump. Otherwise, one pump would have quick response but the other would have to flow out the tank, through the filter, to the Y, backflow through the filter for the other pump, then back to the tank through the bulkhead fitting to the PPRV. Not a good thing, especially the backflowing through the filter part.
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Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, wife's car, 289k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, 35k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
01 F150
00 F150 4x4
68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)
94 Kawasaki ZG1000 Concours

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Old 06-24-2017, 07:26 AM
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Now the question is where do i buy new PPRVs?

My dying 340 for some reason burnt out my only modified FPDM.
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Old 06-24-2017, 08:12 AM
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Now the question is where do i buy new PPRVs?

My dying 340 for some reason burnt out my only modified FPDM.
I don't know about where to get them. I still have the OEM ones from the factory. I did modify my setup by using two hats to make one, so that's where I got the second PPRV. Any CV, GM, MM will have the same hat. Mustangs probably have the same PPRV too.

Unusual for a modified FPDM to die. Especially with a single pump.
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Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, wife's car, 289k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, 35k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
01 F150
00 F150 4x4
68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)
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And with your fuel problems it won't be long until somebody chimes in with "go with a return setup!"
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$1800 and it was worse than when he started!

Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, wife's car, 289k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, 35k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
01 F150
00 F150 4x4
68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)
94 Kawasaki ZG1000 Concours

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Turbo Build!!! am I missing anything

Go with a return set up.




















Actually I'm glad I did. One more thing of simplicity.


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I don't know about where to get them. I still have the OEM ones from the factory. I did modify my setup by using two hats to make one, so that's where I got the second PPRV. Any CV, GM, MM will have the same hat. Mustangs probably have the same PPRV too.

Unusual for a modified FPDM to die. Especially with a single pump.
I had the BAP set to half with the 340, not sure what went wrong, one morning after start up car turns off and check engine light pointed to the FPDM. Put the stock in and every thing went back to normal.
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Go with a return set up.





















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lol, maybe after I break 600rwhp, need a tranny rebuild and 3200 stall at the moment.
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