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    Quote Originally Posted by Svashtar View Post
    Thanks very much, but it could be that the ABS module is fine, and that the ABS and brake lights are on due to a wheel sensor, correct? So replacing the ABS module wouldn’t solve the issue in that case.

    I’d obviously need to know the module was bad before replacing it. The ABS light flickered on and off for several weeks before deciding to stay on permanently a few months ago.

    Sorry, just reread your first sentence. You think that because the scan tool can’t connect, that proves that the ABS module is bad? I don’t know, I read a ton of reviews that show this reader is hit or miss on its ability to connect to ABS systems, and Fords and cars closest to 1996 are especially problematic. Innova oversells it’s ability in those areas. I bought it only after their tech assured me it would diagnose my issue. There seems to be a direct correlation between how much you spend and how well they work with ABS systems.

    What you say makes sense, but I don’t see how you can guarantee it’s not just a problem with the tool.


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    The issue I had was the abs light was on, I tried three scanners including expensive snap-on scanners and all could not connect. If this turns out to be your issue, it's the module. If you are able to connect, i'm sure I'll tell you what's wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comin' in Hot View Post
    The issue I had was the abs light was on, I tried three scanners including expensive snap-on scanners and all could not connect. If this turns out to be your issue, it's the module. If you are able to connect, i'm sure I'll tell you what's wrong.


    Ok, thanks, I wouldn’t have even considered the possibility offhand, so I’m glad you chimed in. I have to eliminate the variable of this one scanner, as I’ve read it can have ABS connectivity issues. If it does it again with another brand, then I’ll be back posting to learn how to pull the module. Appreciate it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Svashtar View Post
    Thanks Bob, appreciate the reference. Online you see either cheap $19.95 ones, or others that promise the moon, so it’s hard to tell.


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    https://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP9680...=Actron+CP9580

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    When the Ford IDS at work is already in use we use this one...it will read ABS and airbag codes, and it works pretty well. The price is very reasonable at under a $100 with what you’re getting with this scanner. It’s scans imports as well.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Autel-AL619...-/251629758350

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryo340 View Post
    When the Ford IDS at work is already in use we use this one...it will read ABS and airbag codes, and it works pretty well. The price is very reasonable at under a $100 with what you’re getting with this scanner. It’s scans imports as well.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Autel-AL619...-/251629758350
    Any of these samples cycle the ABS for bleeding or is that only done with the Ford tool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBlackBeasts View Post

    Yes, that’s the one for $180 I mentioned in post #15. It’s the upgrade / replacement to the 9580 Bob recommended.

    The question is do I look for an old 9580 that handles cars up to 2010, or pay $70 more and get one that will also handle newer cars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBlackBeasts View Post
    Any of these samples cycle the ABS for bleeding or is that only done with the Ford tool?

    None that I’ve seen from any mfr have that capability. Pretty sure you have to go to the dealer for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by larryo340 View Post
    When the Ford IDS at work is already in use we use this one...it will read ABS and airbag codes, and it works pretty well. The price is very reasonable at under a $100 with what you’re getting with this scanner. It’s scans imports as well.



    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Autel-AL619...-/251629758350

    Cool, thanks Larry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBlackBeasts View Post
    Any of these samples cycle the ABS for bleeding or is that only done with the Ford tool?
    This one will not perform the ABS bleed.

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    Norm, I also have the Actron CP9580. I bought it specifically to diagnose an ABS issue with Mary's car. Unfortunately, since it's now discontinued, Actron no longer provides firmware updates, but it does everything I need it to, including I/M monitor status and state OBDII readiness checks, which I figure might be important to you, being in the PRK (People's Republic of Kalifornia).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comin' in Hot View Post
    I guarantee it's not the scan tool. I had the same issue. I did some research and found out it is pretty common for the abs electronics module to fail. You could send just electronic module out to be repaired, it is like $100. Module Repair Pro did mine, I think it does matter if it's a 2003 or 2004 so go through the their website and find yours.

    http://www.shop.modulerepairpro.com/...-ABS-0160c.htm
    THIS, and that is cheap. Try to find an 04 module that works. And you are correct there is a different because of TC. $100 is cheap for the rebuild compared to $100 + for used with no confirmation the module works or the one NOS one I've seen for $495
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    Quote Originally Posted by RF Overlord View Post
    Norm, I also have the Actron CP9580. I bought it specifically to diagnose an ABS issue with Mary's car. Unfortunately, since it's now discontinued, Actron no longer provides firmware updates, but it does everything I need it to, including I/M monitor status and state OBDII readiness checks, which I figure might be important to you, being in the PRK (People's Republic of Kalifornia).


    From what I understand Bob, it should accept the newest firmware for the CP9580A, but not the other way around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RF Overlord View Post
    Norm, I also have the Actron CP9580. I bought it specifically to diagnose an ABS issue with Mary's car. Unfortunately, since it's now discontinued, Actron no longer provides firmware updates, but it does everything I need it to, including I/M monitor status and state OBDII readiness checks, which I figure might be important to you, being in the PRK (People's Republic of Kalifornia).

    Thanks very much, I’m going to call them today to ask about both models. What I read is that you need to hookup the 9580a to a computer the first time (nothing newer than windows 7) and download their latest patch, then you’re good to go.

    You’re right about needing that capability in the PRK. Right now I rely on my Scangauge II to tell me if the system is ready, but it doesn’t give any info beyond that.

    FYI, with the stock tune the car would always be “ready” with all systems checks after a few days / driving cycles. With the DR tune it was never ready, for years, so something was keeping it from completing. So every other year I have to put the carb compliant airbox back on, reset the tune to factory, and drive it for at least a week for it to pass smog.

    As people have pointed out that confuses the car because of the 4:10’s, but it can’t be helped.

    Thanks again for the info.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevengerard View Post
    THIS, and that is cheap. Try to find an 04 module that works. And you are correct there is a different because of TC. $100 is cheap for the rebuild compared to $100 + for used with no confirmation the module works or the one NOS one I've seen for $495

    I have TC on my ‘03, which of course stopped working when the ABS light came on. Hope it doesn’t come to replacing the damned thing.


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    This is the scanner I use majority of the time for 95% of the stuff that comes into my shop..


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