I will still go with the Trilogy for two reasons...
1) Instant throttle response
2) Proven track record
I will still go with the Trilogy for two reasons...
1) Instant throttle response
2) Proven track record
those two reasons, along with input from members on this board, [you know who you are] are why i chose trilogy. either way, you can't lose when you supercharge a marauder.Originally Posted by David Morton
2003 Marauder 300A
Trilogy Supercharger Serial #0054
Installed by Carfixer 10/16/2004
Tallboy's Garage
NO........Originally Posted by Mike Mielnicki
All great points. I have made my choice for S/C. But dont want to add any fuel to a topic that could overheat. I doubt it but best not. To have another option to our MM is great. And continues to add more toys to an ever growning TOY CHEST!!!!!!
The Procharger uses ceramic bearings which tranlates into less heat.
As for the intercooler, they typically utilize an air-to-air intercooler.
I personally think an air-to-water is foolproof for daily driving, but Procharger is known for dominating all classes at big drag racing events with the air-to-air. Im just anxious to see the finished product.
I love when people dare to be different.
I know the Trilogy is about $6000.00 and the Reinhardt is more then that. Any clues on where the Pro Charger will end up????
If all 3 are adding about 150HP I think price becomes more important.
I pretty much have chosen the Trilogy but I guess until I find out the price of the Pro Charger I will wait.
I know the Mustang guys love the Pro Charger.
PROCHARGER SUPERCHARGER FROM F.I.T. # 007
18psi pulley
MMR built Stroker 5.0+.020 overbore
Forged Crank/Manley Rods/Manley Pistons
Billet Oil Pump
ARP Bolts and head studs
Snow Methanol Injection
3500 Stall Converter (PI)
Stryker 340 Fuel Pump
45 lbs Injectors
4:10 gears
K&N Air Filter
Factory Spoiler
Widened Wheels
Nittos
170 deg thermostat
SS Inserts
Daniel's Colex Billet Supercharged Emblems front and rear
Trunk organizer
Originally Posted by David Morton
Those are both very good points. I have had the Trilogy installed the longest besides the Trilogy #1 prototype car, with no problems. The packaging and installation are the best as far as im concerned. I think you will still find that the Trilogy is the best engineered and designed supercharger setup out there for the Marauder, at the best price to date. You wont be dissapointed with it....
No MAC, it isn't. I agree w/just about everything you stated in your post except for the quote above. The Trilogy S/Cer kit includes the Eaton S/cer model M112, and it uses a by-pass valve that is activated by throttle position. The valve is open wich by-passes the internal rotors of the S/Cer unit until you get close to the half throttle position, and then the valve closes which then causes all the air going to the intake manifold to go through the internal rotors of the S/Cer. Eaton integrated the by-pass valve in the 90's in order for gas economy while the driver's foot isn't into the pedal very much. On the highway my car gets 16.5 MPG with the 4.56 gears I have, and with the 4.10 gears I'd be getting 18.5 MPG on the highway. How do I know that? because I had the 4.10's in there before I put the 4.56's in.Originally Posted by SergntMac
The reason why you get such great throttle response w/the Trilogy/Eaton set-up is because the Roots type S/Cer gives you all of your available boost all at once regardless of RPM when you punch it. If you give it half pedal, then you only get about 5 PSI of boost. And when you stay at just 1/3 pedal, you don't get any boost at all because of the bypass valve on the S/Cer.
Last edited by BillyGman; 10-15-2004 at 11:33 PM.
This will be mor affordable and you dont have to tap your oil pan.
Originally Posted by ADE 1000
But you don't have to tap into your oil pan w/the Trilogy Supercharger kit either, since the Eaton M112 Supercharger that it includes is a self-oiling,& a self-contained unit.Originally Posted by maraudernkc
Last edited by BillyGman; 10-16-2004 at 03:23 PM.
Glad to hear they're finally coming around. I've been planning on a custom ProCharger setup based on the Mach1 kit with a D1SC upgrade and 12 psi pulleys, but this will save me a lot of work. The intercooler is going to be a challenge, I've been measuring and checking out dimensions of cores and possible tubing routing. I have a couple of ideas, if you want to discuss it send me an email.Originally Posted by maraudernkc
Keep in mind, that some folks will never be convinced that something besides the roots type is a "real" supercharger.
Thanks to Darrin @ BC Automotive:
$1800 and it was worse than when he started!
Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker
03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, originally wife's car, 370k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, wife's next one, 136k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
04 MM Silver, Stock, on standby 85k mi, FPG # 1212 of 3214 or 432 of 997 SB
01 F150 longbed
01 F150 shortbed
00 F150 4x4 stepside
01 F150 4x4 7700
68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)
Mods listed here (some items not current): FordNut's Mods
Cost is an issue for me, saving money is always a good thing. If it's a $500 dollar difference it won't be a big of a deal. I do like the idea of having another option, but that has to be compared to products with a proven track record.
As much as I hate to admit it I'm leaning to the Trilogy kit for its factory looks. I've had a Lightning and a Super Coupe T-Bird and the the Trilogy kit looks as factory. That's my .
05 - SRT-10 Truck, Viper V10, 6-Speed, 92 of 200 in white.
06 - Mercedes R350
65 - Mustang Convertible
03 MM: Black, Cd Changer. Sold
Current Mods: Vortech air to air supercharger #1, SCT B2400 MAF, 42 lbs. Injectors, K&N, Custom Air box, Twin Cobra Fuel pumps, Stage II trans, PI 3000 Stall Converter, MM drive shaft, DR cooling mod, FRPP 4.10’s, FRPP girdle cover/stud kit, Motorcraft Plugs, 180 Stat., 9100 SCT, Mac n' Zack Rear Control Arms, Full Kook's exhaust..
Fordnut, whatever your choice is fine w/me since it is your car. But just for your benefit, let me just pose a question here.....
are you aware that any Mustang or Cobra has different accessory locations, as well as a different upper intake manifold which sweeps to the opposite side of the engine than the one on the Marauder? I'm not sure about the centrifugal kits, but I do know that with the Roots type S/Cer kits, that makes a world of difference.
Last edited by BillyGman; 10-16-2004 at 03:31 PM.
Two questions:
1. Is the ProCharger quiet (idle, off idle, heavy throttle)?
2. What is the maximum boost this supercharger can build, assuming a heavily built engine that can stand it?
[QUOTE=maraudernkc]Great News!
Dennis Reinhart along with myself and Pro Charger will be teaming up to build this new Blower for the MM.
Gman, It will probably run 8PSI. Dennis R. Is joing in on this project.
Thanks, Greg
Originally Posted by BillyGman
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