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    I broke something :(

    I did a search, found some decent information on what I MAY have broken, but some of my transmission's symptoms are a little unique. I am hoping someone can give me a good idea of what is wrong so I can resolve the issue as soon as possible.

    Car: 03 A
    Mileage: 65K
    Trans serviced approximately 10K miles ago
    Lidio tune


    It happened taking off from a dead stop at W.O.T. The car accelerated good until it hit the 1-2 shift point, then it bounced off the revv limiter, no more drive gear. I pulled over, turned overdrive off and was able to drive it home. I checked the fluid, good, clean, full.

    Current symptoms (overdrive on)

    1) will not go into reverse
    2) sometimes will go into first when fluttering the gas.
    3) will shift from first to second (at an unusually high R.P.M)
    4) If I do not keep accelerating in second it will fall in and out of gear
    5) No third gear or overdrive

    Overdrive off:
    1) will shift 1-2, but at a very high R.P.M with a lot of hesitation
    2) will shift into third fine
    3) have reverse

    I am sick to my stomach, guess I should not have been playing around so much. I appreciate any and all feedback, I am hoping it is something easy, but that may be a little too optimistic.

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    Have you been "manually shifting" that thing, at WOT?...

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    I have manually shifted, however never under acceleration.

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    It's dead. Head for the tranny shop for a rebuild before you completely destroy it beyond repair...

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    Maybe Direct Clutchs And Sungear.known For 4r70ws.

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    When ever you manually shift...you engage the OD band...After a few of those...it's just a matter of time before you have said problems...

    Good luck on the re-build...

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    Last edited by Local Boy; 07-22-2007 at 01:57 PM.


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    is there a warning sign before this happens.
    shifted manuelly myself a couple of times before reading this board about the problem. Seems to be working fine for now..

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    Let me first clarify ... I'm not an expert on transmissions...nor do I work on them...Therefore, all the information that I "pass on" is obtained from this site...particularly from individuals (Zack and others)who know how to build them and whom I trust to know what they are talking about...

    If you type in "manually shift" into the search button...you can read the posts from which I 'am refering...

    From what I understand...two things come to mind:

    1. As I have said...manually shifting our cars engages the OD band...Do this often enough (at high revs) and you will surely reduce the life of your trans.

    2. Whenever, you intend to "punch it"...you should have your OD "OFF"...You do not want your OD to come on while at WOT...Two mistakes the original poster presumably made...

    As for your question...I'm sure there are "warning signs" of some sort...
    But can not be specific...again because I do not work on them...

    That question would be better answered by those who build and work on them...Ask Zack...That guy knows his stuff....

    Sorry, I can't be of more help...

    ALOHA


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    *SCT Tuned *SCT Big Air 2400 MAF *BAP *GT 40 Fuel Pump *Modified FPDM *SSW Headers *MMX Drive Shaft *Metco Drive Shaft Loop *Metco Control Arms *T/A Stud Girdle w/ Diff Cover *Addco Sway Bars 3,500 Stall B/C Auto. Torque Converter *J-Mod *Wilwood 13" Big Brake Kit *Brembo Drilled/Slotted Rotors (Rear) *Widened Rims w/ 295 Nitto 555 *Autometer Wide Band A/F

    When I turn on my car...It returns the favor

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    Thanks all

    I am taking it to a highly recommended shop tomorrow, hopefully it will not be too bad.

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    I've always noticed that when reverse goes out in a automatic transmission its only a matter where the rest of the gears are going to fail and leave you sitting on the side of the road.

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    If you have to get it rebuilt, spend a bit extra and have it rebuilt properly with an Art Carr kit or something so it doesn't blow up on you again..

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    I agree, get Art Carr parts for it.
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    Ummmm...I think something went ka-tung on mine this afternoon.
    OD off and not even a drop pedal acceleration. Notice it takes more revs to get going from stop.
    I've been noticing a thunk sound from the front end and have it in several times trying to find the noise. This morning I noticed it thunked into gear much louder then normal.

    Anyone know of a tranny shop in the DC Northern VA area that can look at it/rebuild it bullet proof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Ummmm...I think something went ka-tung on mine this afternoon.
    OD off and not even a drop pedal acceleration. Notice it takes more revs to get going from stop.
    I've been noticing a thunk sound from the front end and have it in several times trying to find the noise. This morning I noticed it thunked into gear much louder then normal.

    Anyone know of a tranny shop in the DC Northern VA area that can look at it/rebuild it bullet proof?
    Sherman just had his trans re-build for a good price in Northern VA. I will ask him what's the name of the shop. The turn around time was good also.


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    Merc...please do. I contacted Randy via cell phone already. When the car is in park I hear the dreaded whining/hydarulic cavitation noise. Level seems fine...smell is okay. Something definitly went ka-tung. It's an 04. Been noticing a shifting sound in first at low speed. Wonder if it's a solenoid. Engine definity seems to rev higher without the torque.
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